IBM Thinkpad laptop, PentII/MMX, win95, 64mb ram, ositech 5oH 56k modem, shiva vpn client, netscape 4.75, lotus, macafee, excel, powerpoint, word.

the hard drive has four partitions. C=1.95g/1.23g used...D=1.99g/30.6mb used...E=1.7g/300kb used...G=1.95g/1.93g used...I=cdrom

here's the problem....I click on my computer, then the dial-up networking folder. From here I click on the dial-up icon. This brings up the internet connection window. When I click on "dialing properties" I get the message, "there is not enough memory available, close some files or programs then try again"

Now, I can connect to the internet and surf around but when I try to download anything from the net, the same error message appears.

If you are running the standard setup of having Win manage the swap file and it is on C drive...it looks like there is not enough room on C for the swap file. You can either move some stuff off of C or use one of the other drives for a swap file. Clean it up first and go into the Device Manager/Performance/Virtual Memory. I suggest you contemplate the appropriate route for your needs before making these changes. I set aside a 1gb partition for my swap for my expected 512MB RAM, but then again I could spare the extra having this 46GB HD. Win 95 & 64MB RAM won't need near that much swap file, so if you go that route you would have to f/disk and basically start over, unless you used Partition Magic or the likes.

I know that MS Office products offer an option to start running at start up thus hogging resources. I would disable that option as well.

Hang around and let's see what others may suggest before making drastic changes.

The error occurs when the HD has less room than what the swap file is asking to use.
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[This message has been edited by bassvax (edited 04-26-2001).]

Bassvax's right, you need to cleanup/delete some things to make room on your partitions. I would recommend placing the swap file on the D or E drive, then deleting the old swap file from it's current location. Also you might want to change the location of the Temp folder from the C drive to the D or E drive.

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ok, upon closer inspection I saw that the "G" drive is ghosting for the "D" drive (what does that mean?) secondly, the virtual memory was set for "D" drive. I moved some stuff out of C drive and placed it in E drive. This opened up some space in C and filled some in E. I switched virtual memory to E drive. I rebooted and tried the network dial up...no change. I switched virtual memory to C drive, again no change. I'm missing something here. What else do I need to do? I know win98 would change the parameters of the partitions and probably clear this up but I've been informed win98 isn't a option at this time.

Ghost hacker mentioned something about moving the swap file, then deleting the old one. How is this done?

Thanx for your responses

I made the diagnosis based upon the swap being on C which was overcrowded...seeing as how, according to your DM, the swap file was on D and there was plenty of room there, I am now unsure of what is causing the problem.
Another possibility...there is software that came pre-loaded on the system or you have installed that is draining your system resources. Is it safe to assume that you did not know that C was being ghosted to G? This could be the HIQ (hog-in-question). Check the DM again same page (Performance) and take note of the available resources after a fresh boot. You may just need to try to stop some of the background-running-unnecessary-resource-hogging software http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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G drive is a host to D (according to the icon in my computer). G is basically full while D is about 40% full (since I've moved stuff onto it tonight from C). How does this "hosting" affect D drive? I guess I'm asking what relationship or impact G partition is having with the D partition. As far as preloaded software, I have no idea. What I listed in my first post was on the LT when I booted it for the first time last night. I wonder if I have to do something so that all these programs won't start on boot so they're not running in the background all the time...possible?

thanx again for your efforts

go to: start, run- type in "msconfig" (without the quotes) hit enter or click run.

go to: "Start Up" TAB.. UNcheck all things from start up that you do not really need.

re-boot.

definetly need explorer and systray, anything else is dependant on your particular systerm. I also need starter.exe to run my ensonique drivers (If I want any sound) http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/eek.gif

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[This message has been edited by sea69 (edited 04-27-2001).]

I'm running win95. Outside of sysedit, is there another way to navigate to the start up menu or do I have have to do this from prompt?

thanx for your response

Sound like you have some disk compression going on. The D drive is really a compressed file "hosted" on the the logical G drive. Moving the swap file off this compressed drive should have done the trick. ( make sure that you have moved the swap file to an uncompressed drive)

To delete the old swap file look for a file called "win386.swp" and delete it. Don't worry about deleting the wrong one because if it's in use windows won't let you delete it.

Also make sure that the size of your swap file is at least 1.5 times the size of installed RAM on your sytem.


The only other cause of the error your getting is when the system has run out of conventional memory. (a problem for DOS programs even if there running from windows.) Shutting down unnessary programs ( as Sea and Bassvax suggested) should clear that problem. If you know DOS you might also check your Config.sys and Autoexec.bat for any TSR programs that may be loading on startup.

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[This message has been edited by Ghost_Hacker (edited 04-27-2001).]

W95x Users:
Download the Msconfig file, and place it in the C:\Windows\System folder. Then follow the above instructions.

Click here (http://www.surecool.com/msconfig.zip), for the download. (msconfig)


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you guys have been a great help..I'll set the virtual memory to work on a umcompressed drive and then delete the existing swap file. Also thanks for the link for msconfig! I'll let you know how it all works out and hopefully I won't bungle things up.

first off, the msconfig install into win95 worked great! Many thanx for that little tidbit. Secondly, I set virtual memory (2.5 times the ram size, min and max) to work off of a uncompressed drive and deleted the old swap file. Win95 automatically created the new swap file in the appropriate partition. Using the newly installed msconfig, I deleted all the programs I could so they wouldn't run on start up. Feeling confindent I rebooted. I check all my changes and they took effect. I tried the dialup networking properties only to find the error message still rearing its ugly head. I dediced to talk the user into installing win98 so he wouldn't have to use so many partitions as per win95 restrictions and life would be good again. This was a couple of days ago and I haven't heard back.

Then some fellow called me at work to tell me he figured out a way to bypass the win95 partition restrictions and under win95, he could make any size partitions he wanted. He wouldn't exactly tell me how he did it. Anyone know if there's really a way to do this or was he using a 3rd party program to achieve this?

Hi Steveo,
Couple of questions.Have you verified that this is win95A? Win95B supports Fat32 and would allow larger partitions. Have you checked that all 64mg of Ram is working? How about cleaning out History and Temp folders?
I have basicly the same machine in a desktop (233/64) and have never had a problem with a connection. I tend to keep my machines pretty clean and don't have anything on that I am not using.
I don't know of a way around Fat16 restrictions with 3rd party, but you could upgrade and that would be a wise choice.

Good luck

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Bassman...

The o/s is..or was win95a. The guy called me first thing this morning and by 11am I had win98se put on it. As I expected all issues were gone and the guy is happy. As far as win95 goes, I always seem to have problems working within the o/s (this past problem a good example) as there always seems to be a file or driver that won't load, or the registry gets corrupted or core files suddenly disappearing or failing to load at start up. Maybe it's some sick joke the computer gods play on me as I alway seem to get stuck with win95 issues that I just can't solve.

thanx for the tidbit on win95b partitions....I'll store that away for future reference. Time to close this thread and move on to bigger and better things!