Hi,
i have a second Pc with ASUS A7v133 mainboard; the PC goes through POST ok and then displays Boot from Atapi CDRom NO emulation..i can't get win Xp to boot from the CDRW, I have tried a couple of other CD ROM drives and i get the same message. i also get problems with booting from the floppy drive (floopy drive & cable works ok in other Pc
would appreciate any suggestions to fix the above
thanks

Stevo28

What are your BIOS options for booting form CD?

Are your drives set to auto-detect?

What are you trying to do exactly?

Install XP?

If you have a Win 98/ME/2000/XP Startup disk, use that to boot. Then select to boot with CD-Rom support.

You will need XP Pro boot floopies if you have Pro and Home boot floppies if its Home XP..98 and old Dos wont work..will get a " This cant be ran in Dos mode" type of error. I also have had trouble with CDRW's and XP disc..one CDRW wouldnt even detect that a cd was in the drive at all and refused to boot from it. I used a old 24x i had laying around and problem solved. So try another cdrom if thats possible..if it isnt you will need XP boot disk floopies ..think it takes about 4. Just do a search for them on google. www.google.com

The WinXP install disk is a bootable CD and this Asus board should support booting from an ATAPI drive. The CD drive should be installed on the regular IDE channel not the Ultra ATA100 (if your board has them).

If what i suggested sounded like you MUST have floopies to boot i didnt mean it that way..Just some cdrw's will not boot from a XP cd..mine is a 24x Artec , it will not boot a XP cd and will not even show that a XP Pro cd is in the drive while while in Windows 98 or Windows XP Pro..but if i put in a 98 CD or my 2000 Pro they will run fine and show the menu's fine. I added a old 24x cdrom as a slave and they all came up fine while in Windows and then would boot from the XP cd, by using the XP CD in the slave cdrom and not the cdrw. If he doesnt have a extra cdrom around he will need the floppys for the specific version of XP he has instead. And no ATA 100 cards here ither...Anyone have a good one to sell cheap :D

randy,

My post wasn't specifically in esponse to you...you just got yours posted before I did...;)

But yes some drives, no matter what you do will not recognize the XP CD as being bootable (not sure if the XP disk is eltorito(bootable CD standard) or not.

thanks for replies folks
i am trying to load win 98, my ASus motherboard supports ATA 100, bios is set to auto-detect the cdrom & cd rom is connected with 40 pin IDE cable(not 80 pin.. Should bios recognise that it is not ATA 100?... i wondered if the bios may need to be reset as i can't even boot from the floppy drive with win98 boot disk..i have also tried other boot disks the drives & cables work ok with another older MIcrostar board made in 98

Steve

Check and make sure the boot order is set to whatever you want to boot from is set the the first boot item...if you want the floppy to boot it must be the first item. CD must be first, etc....

i had set boot order correct in BIOS for CD & floppy drives..i may have a Linux boot manager installed on the empty hard drive..i have accessed this empty drive using my healthy PC and have formatted the drive.. would a linux boot manager on this drive interfere with the BIOs programs as still can't boot from a floppy or CD

Stevo28

Steve,

In Bios there is a setting to pick the sequence of boot devices. Floppy, CD-Rom, hard drive. If you want to boot from a bootable Windows installation CD, set the boot device to CD-Rom. Some bootable CD's will still not boot even though you set the boot device to CD-Rom (I don't know why).

If the CD won't boot, don't worry. Just set the boot device to floppy and boot with a Windows startup disk. Make sure you select CD-rom support when it asks you. When the boot is finished you will be able to find your CD-Rom, and list the files on the CD - one file will be setup.exe. Type 'setup' and Windows setup will start.

Finally, some computers will not boot from the Windows startup disk in the normal way and you will not be able to see either your HD or your CD-Rom. This is usually because an overlay called "E-Z Bios" has been added to bios.

Do you have E-Z Bios? If you have added a large HD to this computer, you may have a BIOS overlay called E-Z bios that allows bios to recognize the high capacity drive.During the boot process, you can see E-Z bios initialize on your display device.

If you have E-Z bios, set bios to boot from floppy, but don't put a floppy in the drive. When E-Z bios starts, press CTRL and it will take you to a menu that asks if you want to start from floppy or HD. Pick floppy and insert your startup disk. The startup disk will load then ask you if you want CD-Rom support. Select CD-Rom support. When the boot process has finished you will be able to see your HD and your CDRom. The start up disk will create a Ramdisk. So if your HD is C:, the Ramdisk will be called D: and this will contain all the files that were on the startup disk and allows you to take the startup disk out of the floppy drive. Your CD-Rom will then be E: instead of D:

Maybe, to the Linux boot loader...it could possibly be intercepting the boot process and trying to direct it through itself. (I had a small drive that I was trying to format recently and it would hang when trying to boot if I did anything other than boot directly to it...it had an old version of LILO on it and not sure what version of linux.)

Try the drive in the "healthy" machine, set it to master and just swap it for the current drive (don't actuall have to screw it in place, just make sure you set it somewhere solid and secure) and sww if the same behavior is present. If you can boot with a CD or floppy in the other machine then any kind of boot loader on the drive wouldn't be the problem.

You can try something a little stronger than formatting the drive. You can try the zero fill utility from the hard drive manufacturer.

I dont want to sound like im nagging with the 98 bootup floopy suggestions, but, it will not work on a XP cd..when you boot with a 98 floppy with cdrom support and go into the i386 folder of the XP cd and type "setup" you will get a " This cannot be ran in DOS mode" error. Already been down that road. Unless you can type the old "Winnt" command like in NT4 which i havent tried. If you use any XP boot floopies they have to be for PRO if its PRO CD and Home if its Home CD. The floppies do not even load like dos they pretty much do the same as if you booted from the CD it gets you to the level to start copying files from the CD ,then it will ask for a PRO or HOME cd depending on what version floppies you got. I tried using a Home version of XP using Pro boot floppies and no go. They wouldnt be seperate versions of floppies if they didnt have to be. Just dont wana sound like i nagging just didnt want him spending anymore time than he already has.

Randy,

I'm not sure what he's trying to do. He made the statement that he was trying to load Windows 98.

Right now his problem seems to be that he can't boot at all, and I was just trying to help with that.

Thats cool man i just wanted him to have clear understanding where he can and cant go with the 98 floopy.:D

Randy,

By the way. I had forgotten that you can't boot with a 98 startup and then install Win XP. Thanks for the heads up.

You know i just thought of something..hes getting a "no emulation" message...its reading the cd somewhat or it should just say failure you would assume..XP disk dont have emulatuion..they have a boot img file embedded ..like a 2000 disk where as the old 98 dos version emulated a floppy startup disk so to speak. But what gets me is where it wont boot from a floppy ither. Try this, go into the bios settings that show the Master and the Slave and so on..If the cdrom is on the second ide as measter set it to auto..and over to the far right of that, where it may say NORMAL change that to auto also..if that dont work set it to NONE and try it.. ..if those are available options. The floppy thing though is what gets me..try a different floppy and or floppy drive. If the floppy light stays on all the time the ribben cable is backwards.