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D,Arbib
12-07-2002, 11:35 PM
. I want to update from AMD 2200+ to AMD 2700+ CPU. Does A7V333 motherboard support this and is updating multipliers automatic?

2. Wanted to change fron REV 1011 to 1015 so tried to install Asus probe V2.15.00 which resulted in: AsmiEnum
Unknown Chipset
OK
On OK:Current settings: Setup program detects no LM75 or any
compatible chip on board
OK
On OK: Asus probe 2. Access violation at address 004090C2 in
modules 'Asusprob.exe'. Read of address 0000030
OK
On OK; Installation aborted

Asus update comes up with ASUS BIOSINFO.DLL
Cannot detect ASUS BIOS
OK

On OK: Installation aborted


Does anyone have any idea what this means and what to do? I have cleared/reset CMOS Ram which is the only help I've had from Asus. System is AMD 2200+, 512 MB 2700 DDR ram, XP pro,

Whyzman
12-08-2002, 12:46 AM
Hello D,Arbib,

Welcome tohttp://www.pcguide.com/ubb/pcgubb.gif Forums!

The A7V333 supports up to a 333 Front Side Bus Processor which the AMD 2700 is.

The Asus Probe software is not the same as what is used to flash your BIOS. I would suggest reading the manual accompanying your Motherboard regarding how to flash the BIOS. The information contained there will direct you to the correct Flash Utility and where to download the correct BIOS image file.

Be sure you read the information in total and completely understand the process. http://www.asus.com.tw/support/download/download.aspx

Under the "more" information regarding your board there is information pertinent to which flash utility to use. You would want to make sure you know which version you currently have to avoid a mistake. Once a BIOS is corrupted, I don't think this board has a dual BIOS, you would most likely have to replace the chip.

If it truly is the version you mentioned then you would want to download the Asus update utility...and also the current BIOS image file.

If you'll post back your actual BIOS version we can go from there if you have any questions as to which flash utility to use.

saphalline
12-08-2002, 02:05 AM
Strange, I didn't think the KT333 chipset supported the new 333MHz fsb AthlonXP's, and if you look here (http://usa.asus.com/mb/socketa/a7v333/specification.htm) you'll see that the main A7V333 mobo page says the limit is a 266MHz fsb. But here (http://download.asus.com.tw/mb_dl_menu.asp?Status=31&l1=1&l2=10&l3=18&mid=1) at the BIOS update download page, the 1015 BIOS does indeed "upgrade" the mobo to use a 333MHz fsb for the newest AthlonXP's. That's pretty cool! :cool:

Rick
12-08-2002, 07:30 AM
If You want true or correct readings
Remove that POS program "Probe" It has never been correct
Reads at least 10 degree off "High" on every M/B I have ever used it on
Grab a Copy of Mother Board Monitor.
It works better and has support

D,Arbib
12-08-2002, 09:47 AM
To Whyzman, thanks

a)The actual BIOS version is, as above, version 1011
b)I can access an EZ facility (Alt+F2) during boot up. Is this of any use?
c)Seeing the warnings that system can easily be screwed up if updating BIOS is not followed to the letter I believed that the Manual which had ASUS live update (Page 99) could be the answer to my prayers, but ASUS Probe V2.15.00 won't work properly.

To Saphline, thanks

Version 1011 also supports 333 MHz, but I am not sure if there is automatic multiplier setting if I put in AMD 2700+/2800+?

To Rick, thanks

I am a newbie am running scared of updating the BIOS. From the manual, using Probe V2.15.00 seemed to be the way to go. I have removed the Probe program - what is wrong with it and why hasn't ASUS corrected it?

Where is the "Motherboard Monitor"? And who supports it?

Rick
12-08-2002, 10:06 AM
You can get a copy of MBM5 here

http://mbm.livewiredev.com/

Why hasn’t Asus fixed Probe?
That’s a good question..
One that I have asked Asus about and Never gotten answer to.
In Fact to date they have never even replied to my questions about “Probe”

No big deal.
Your better off checking your system temperatures using the Bios
and an accurate program like MBM

You’ll find that MBM will help you with support questions
I use their feedback when they release a new version to help myself and help them
add the features many people are looking for ..

If you install MBM be sure to read the documentation

Rick
12-08-2002, 10:22 AM
I have attempted to use the Asus Live Update Exactly once
And will never use it again.
1. Their site and servers are TOO SLOW and Unreliable .
2. Having a lost connection in the middle of a Bios update can trash your system Completely


Your better off doing it the correct way..
Using a DOS boot disk
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/english/techref/bios/index.aspx
Download the correct flash utility program
create a boot disk with NO device or Memory drivers.
Copy the flash program and the bios update file(Write the File Name down) to the floppy.
Boot to the bios setup and set allow bios update to (Enable)
Also If the mother board has a bios update jumper set it to allow update
Boot from the floppy.
Run the flash program.
Follow the menu items to create a BACKUP of the old bios to a file on the floppy
Then use the menu option to update the bios.
Allow it to write the new bios. And watch for any and all error messages.
Write them down.... DON’T turn the power off during the flash/update or after the update till you are absolutely sure it is correct ( Updated without error message)

Once you are sure it is done correctly.
Remove the floppy.
Reset the system. And allow it to boot to the bios screen.
Enter the bios and find the option to load Bios defaults.
Then exit and save with the new bios defaults and your settings for the devices installed.
IE- HDD’s set to auto detect and any other options you need set
Exit and save.
Then allow it to reboot.

malcore
12-08-2002, 10:29 AM
ASUS Probe is now a great and simple piece of monitoring software for owners of Asus boards. Over the last couple of months Asus has worked hard to correct the glitches in this program.
They continue to improve it. Latest release for download from their site is V 2.18.07 and it is bang on with BIOS temps. Much simpler to use than MBM, no set up, no spending a half hour reading documentation. Just install it and click.

It's true, it was a POS, never registering a temp below 40 C and about 5-10 degrees off on highs as Rick mentioned.

If you are unsure about changing the BIOS, then setting up MBM might be a bit of a challenge also. Go to Asus' download section and get the latest Probe. Works beautifully now, and dead easy .

Whyzman
12-08-2002, 10:58 AM
I haven't attempted to access the manual for your board, so I don't know if the EZ Flash information is contained. Here are directions to the EZ Flash utility:

http://www.asuscom.de/mb/ezflash.htm

As stated, it was designed for those who might be overwhelmed by the straight up DOS approach Rick mentioned.

Whyzman
12-08-2002, 01:45 PM
D,Arbib,

I was looking to discuss the problems Rick had with the ASUS Live Update, but he had to attend to some Christmas shopping suff...

So, I reached deep inside my memory banks...hehe...and "seem" to remember that I also used the Live Update when I flashed my board on a couple of different occasions.

It was a much earlier version of the Live Update, so when I took a look at the newest version and heard Rick's concerns about losing one's Internet connection....I wasn't putting two and two together. :(

What I did was to download the BIOS update and unzip the Bios image file to my Desktop. Then I ran the ASUS Live Update, electing to direct it to the image file on my Desktop.

I manually (Ctrl+Alt+Del) shut down all running programs in the TASK MENU except for Systray & Explorer. It appears that the Live Update now informs you of running programs and attempts to shut them down for you.

The concern using a program in Windows, is of course, that your system could freeze in the middle of the update and kill your BIOS chip. For me, it was worth the risk (DOS was overwhelming...I had no idea at the time how to create the necessary disks), especially after shutting down running programs.

It was pretty much a knowledge/comfort zone thing...

My look at the newest ASUS Live Update looks as though it's pretty self-explanatory.

D,Arbib
12-08-2002, 01:45 PM
To Malcore, thanks.

Can you give me the download page for ASUS V2.18.07 which will be far better ( I hope ) than V2.15.00 that is on my CD. Do you know if ASUS also supply an updated CD?

To Whyzman. thanks again.

I will now await the reply from Malcore for ASUS 2.18.07 which may simplify updates.

Whyzman
12-08-2002, 01:49 PM
Am I mistaken, or are you thinking that there's a connection between the Probe software and the BIOS update procedure?I will now await the reply from Malcore for ASUS 2.18.07 which may simplify updates.

The Probe has nothing to do with updating/flashing the BIOS. It's just a software program for monitoring temps.

D,Arbib
12-08-2002, 02:38 PM
To Whyzman thanks again

My Manual for A7V333 (E1010) on page 99 Asus probe gives in para 5.5 Asus Live Update utility, viz.

1. Start ASUS update. Launch the utility from your windows Start menu:
Programs/AsusUpdate.
2. Select an update method.
3. If you selected "downloading from the internet" you will need to select a site. Choose the site closest to you or click auto select.
4. From the FTP site, select the BIOS version you wish to download.
5. Follow the instructions on the suceeding screens to complete the updating process. If you selectedthe option to update your BIOS from a file, a window pops up prompting you to locate the file.

Select the file, click save, then follow the instructions to complete the update process.

This seems simpler and relatively fool proof. But I just cannot use Asus Probe V 2.15.00 which is why I am waiting to find out where the latest version is to be found - I have tried a search for it without much luck.

Whyzman
12-08-2002, 02:44 PM
Hmmmmmm.....I'm wondering if something got lost in a translation....

As far as I can determine, the ASUS Live Update is a separate utility used for flashing the BIOS...

Although, it appears that you can also use it to update other drivers...Vid Cards...and perhaps the Probe updates

However, my understanding is that the Update utility is its own thing and not directly connected to the Probe software

I'm sure you know the old routine! :D "I've never made a mistake in my life...once I thought I did...but I didn't!" :p :rolleyes: :D

D,Arbib
12-08-2002, 07:56 PM
1. I have managed to find and install Probe 2.17.08 but haven't found 2.18.07. This version has utilities blanked out - why?

2. I have found, in German, the Update BIOS version 3.39.01 and have tried to use it. However it comes up with server unable to connect and I have tried different ISP's to no avail. Any ideas? I think finally I am getting close to what I want, but the last mile is always the longest!

Whyzman
12-08-2002, 08:02 PM
I don't know that you need the 3.39.01 to accomplish the flash. The 3.38.01 is available on the ASUS site and is actually the version they use to demo the flash utility...and they are using it on your MB.

Don't know if these are in English but both are here:

http://www.tweak.dk/tools3.php

D,Arbib
12-08-2002, 08:40 PM
To Whyzman thanks.

Yep, the whole idea was to update the BIOS (which, as I explained, was contained on the CD provided in Probe 2.15.00 para 5.5. Now, with your help and rather a lot of my own searching have found the latest update program, which, contains the flash utility about which you have discussed.

At the moment the server is to busy to allow the update to proceed.
Of course, havan't a clue whether 3.39.01 is better than 3.38.xx but it seems to be the latest incarnation. Hopefully this ends this particular thread and thanks to all of you geeks who tried to provide assistance to an aspiring geek!