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kittu
07-16-2001, 08:59 PM
I am building a new system and I am having boot problems
My system specs are
MSI - 6330 Lite mobo
Duron 800 mhz CPU
Siemens 128mb memory + Kingston 64mb memory
Windows 2000 and tried with Win98
CDROM and FloppyDrive

I installed all the hardware, made sure the cables are connected properly.
Bought a new ATX case with 300w powersupply. The system ran for a day with
Win 2000, I must have changed some settings in the CMOS (dump me!!!!!).
It does not boot now. No beep codes, nothing on the monitor. Tried with
different video cards (AGP and PCI). Tried with different keyboards. Tried
with USB mouse. The keyboard does not show the light when I press the NumLock keys. The keyboard is getting power because all three lights flash when I power the system. The HD and the CDRom are getting power too.

Here is all I did to isolate the problem
Did a CMOS reset
Took the MB battery out for 30mins and put it back
Tried to make it work with no memory, just with memory, just with floppy,
Just with Hard disk, just with CDRom, nothing works. To see if the speaker
is fried, I hooked headphones to the MB. Nothing is happening.

I called MSI tech support they say MB must have been grounded. I tried
taking the MB out from the case and kept it away from all the other peripherals no luck.

Send it to the manf might be my next step but that will be a painful step, I would like to try out other options that people can suggest here. I want
to see how can I reset the BIOS or reset the MB if possible.

-kittu

nimnorf2
07-16-2001, 09:55 PM
Hey Kit,
You say it worked for a day with Windows 2000. Then what happened? What were you doing when it went on the blink? Was it working just fine, you shut it down normally and then came back the next morning and it wouldn't fire? Too many possibilities and not enough parameters to diagnose. Give the smart guys on this forum more information. Frankly, you sound like a pretty capable camper who has already pursued the simple fixes, but sometimes when we have our face inside the unit we miss something obvious.
My wife gives me static did you maybe give your system some of yours? Ha!
peace and hang in there let's see if some of the resident gurus can get this for you with out having to send it back to the manufacturer.

kittu
07-16-2001, 10:14 PM
Here is what happened. I installed win98 on one hard disk. It worked for a
day then I installed win 2000 on a new 40G hard disk the next day. It worked when I installed, it was late in the night and I THINK I changed the memory settings in CMOS to let it know that I have 133 instead of 100. The reason I did that was it was giving me hung problems when I did not use the system for more than an hour on win 98 (system freezes), thought this could be 98 problem as I had plans on upgrading it to 2000 did not worry about that problem. Also I think I was mixing memory 133 and 100. To fix this problem and thinking of only using 133 I changed it and now nothing works. I should have kept it 100 and later on realized that 133 works with 100 settings in CMOS.

Reid
07-18-2001, 05:11 AM
Have you tried using just one memory stick at a time? Also, some memory will not run at the rated speed, so try 100 MHz again if it is set at 133. In BIOS, try setting CAS (or CS) to 3 if it is now set at 2.

When installing the motherboard, use the fiber (insulating) washers between the motherboard and the threaded metal posts.

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danleff
07-18-2001, 06:22 AM
hi,

Reid brings up a good point. I notice that you have two different brands of memory installed? This can cause a problem. Are they the same speed and type? Motherboards can be picky about memory. Does the manual give suggestions on memory to use? Try one, preferably the largest mb size in the 1st memory slot, then the other. If one works ok, then try the other. This will give you an idea if memory is at fault. You may need to stick to one type/brand, especially if it is recommended, which means that it has been tested on that machine. Been there, done that!

BigBlue66
07-18-2001, 10:55 AM
Howdy,

If the above suggestions concerning memory do not work, make sure the CPU is fully inserted.

That just happened to me two days ago. I was messing around inside my old 486, installing an override processor that my kid had given me. Everything worked fine until I decided to try out the newer video card that he had also given me. Installed the vid card and powered up. Nothing, nada, zilch. No display, no countup of memory, nothing.

Turns out that whilst installing the vid card, I had flexed the motherboard enough that the processor popped out far enough to not work. I realize that this may all be moot, since you say it worked for awhile. But then, you said you had tried different vid cards, so I suggest checking the processor to make sure it's fully seated.

If that doesn't work, then at least you have a little something to add to your arsenal of knowledge. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Cheers,

Big Blue 66


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Woe is me.

kittu
07-18-2001, 06:56 PM
Tried this in different combinations and also using one stick at at time.
I do not think it is a memory problem. With any memory it was supposed to give a beep error. It does not beep for any kind of error. I think it is not even reaching where it is supposed to check for memory. I cannot get to see/enter BIOS.

Originally posted by Reid:
Have you tried using just one memory stick at a time? Also, some memory will not run at the rated speed, so try 100 MHz again if it is set at 133. In BIOS, try setting CAS (or CS) to 3 if it is now set at 2.

When installing the motherboard, use the fiber (insulating) washers between the motherboard and the threaded metal posts.

kittu
07-18-2001, 07:00 PM
I also did take out the CPU fan and took the CPU out to see if there is any
dust or bent pins :-) and reinserted the CPU, made sure the CPU is properly locked. Nothing happened after I did this.

QUOTE]Originally posted by BigBlue66:
Howdy,

If the above suggestions concerning memory do not work, make sure the CPU is fully inserted.

That just happened to me two days ago. I was messing around inside my old 486, installing an override processor that my kid had given me. Everything worked fine until I decided to try out the newer video card that he had also given me. Installed the vid card and powered up. Nothing, nada, zilch. No display, no countup of memory, nothing.

Turns out that whilst installing the vid card, I had flexed the motherboard enough that the processor popped out far enough to not work. I realize that this may all be moot, since you say it worked for awhile. But then, you said you had tried different vid cards, so I suggest checking the processor to make sure it's fully seated.

If that doesn't work, then at least you have a little something to add to your arsenal of knowledge. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Cheers,

Big Blue 66


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