View Full Version : new mobo,system hangs during startup
grape_ape
08-08-2003, 08:54 PM
I have a new mobo and cpu, after many trial and error lessons and thanks to help from Whyzman and Budfred, I can at leaST LOAD THE DIAGNOSTICS FROM THE FLOPPY. Now pc hangs during setup. Maybe I should when beginning setup. I have even tried XP. it again will load preconfigs but when gets to setting up it hangs, need suggestions
grape_ape
08-08-2003, 09:31 PM
:confused:
Budfred
08-08-2003, 11:00 PM
I don't know the history before this since you started a new thread, so it would be helpful if you post more details. Which diagnostic software did you load and what did it say? Other than trying to load WinXP, what else are you trying to load? Would love to help, but need info.......
grape_ape
08-09-2003, 08:47 AM
New Mobo cpu Old Hard drive. HELP
remember this thread? you helped alot
Budfred
08-09-2003, 09:18 AM
Okay, here is a link to that thread. (http://www.pcguide.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24042) Have you tried resetting BIOS to defaults and going from there? If you have a new mobo and CPU, but are still experiencing the same problems, it sounds like another piece of hardware is probably the problem and the most likely culprits are the RAM and power supply.
grape_ape
08-09-2003, 01:44 PM
have tried numerous things. changed out ram, same problem, cleared cmos several times same problem. changed out floppy, cdrom,same problem, It will load diagnostics but will hang when beginning setup in either win 98se or xp.
grape_ape
08-09-2003, 01:54 PM
have tried several things with bios. no luck.
Budfred
08-09-2003, 01:56 PM
I just reviewed your old thread again and I am a bit confused about what you have actually managed to do. When you say you can load the diagnostics, what diagnostics are you referring to? Specifically, have you run the hard drive manufacturer's diagnostics? If you haven't, it may be worthwhile to do so.
Also, it is probably time to go to minimums and work your way up. This means disconnecting all drives except the floppy and hard drive. I would remove any extra cards that are not absolutely essential as well. I would then try installing the OS on the hard drive and see if it can go all the way. If it does, you add one thing back at a time until it starts to crash again. If it doesn't, you remove all but one stick of RAM and try again. If it still doesn't work, try a different stick of RAM. If it still doesn't work then, you could have a heat problem, a power supply problem or even a motherboard problem. Check back in with progress and we can see what else might do it.
grape_ape
08-09-2003, 02:18 PM
ok. have floppy and harddrive connected. sound and video are mobo embedded.no pci cards. have disabled sound in bios.have disabled lan in bios. boot, loaded optimized defaults. pc recognizes hdd and floppy. loads from win 98se start up desk . gives a: prompt. tried fdisk at one point. came up with error message in jibberish.#$%^^@. shutdown, hookup cdrom
so I can see if OS will install. I get the A: prompt again, get c: prompt, get d: prompt. type in setup. windows start up screen. hangs right there.
Next i load XP in cdrom and boot from there. After drivers and such are loaded it gets to "windows is setting up" and stops there. no error messages.
now, I know that cdrom , floppy and harddrive are good as i can take all these and put to other pc and install OS from there.
1 thing, this is a barebones pkg bought from tigerdirect, power supply has 115/220 settings. Board manual says 110/220. Also manual gives jumper setting for up to 950 mghz amd duron cpu. pkg includes 1.3 ghz. I can only assume that it is compatible as it is working and tigerdirect sold it as part of barebones kit. board is soyo SY-k7vempro.
Budfred
08-09-2003, 02:49 PM
Well, it isn't entirely true that it is working since you can't get an OS installed!... Also, the fact that you got it from TigerDirect makes it very unclear about whether it really is compatible. Look at ResellerRatings (http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1983.html) for them. I won't do business with them at all and there are a number of other people around here who have a similar view. I would double check that the BIOS actually supports that CPU. This could account for the problems you are having. You can check your version of the BIOS against the options listed at probably find more about what is compatible at the Soyo website.Soyo. (http://www.soyousa.com/downloads/selectresults.php?language=&col1=Proc_AMD+Athlon+XP%2C+T-Bird%2C+Duron&col2=41&col3=BIOS+Upgrade)
Whyzman
08-09-2003, 03:00 PM
Also, you mention that you loaded XP, however, after the drivers are loaded it hangs...
What happens if you were to just leave XP without any further additions...??
Can you move about without it freezing?
Are you still barebones after loading the OS or have you added anthing back into the mix??
Oops....also, did you run a SIMM TESTER or just the HD diagnostics??
Whyzman
08-09-2003, 03:09 PM
I cannot speak for Budfred, but I'm definitely confused as to what exactly you've been able to accomplish...:confused:
I thought I was picking up that XP was able to be loaded successfully??? :confused:
Following said install...drivers (motherboard, PCI,...) were added and then it hung???:confused:
grape_ape
08-09-2003, 03:22 PM
checked soyo. Mobo does support cpu. I dont have any idea what to try next. This is so irritating.:mad: :confused:
The problem is I cannot load any operating system, When it gets to the screens which say setting up windows it freezes and I am not able to go anything except shutdown. if i put everything on a differnt pc i can install either 98 or XP. So it has to be this motherboard or bios.
the only drivers i can load or anything is from 98 start up disk or the preconfigged drivers from XP cd. I cant load motherboard drivers bexcause they are windows based and need windows o/s to install 1st
Budfred
08-09-2003, 03:29 PM
I agree that your mobo supports your 1.3 Ghz Duron (at the top edge of its support), but I am not sure your BIOS does. If the BIOS was installed before the 1.3 Ghz was available, it may need to be flashed with a more recent version to provide the support you need. This would account for why you can only get so far and then it collapses. Did you check out the BIOS versions compared to your version??? You can find out which version you have by going into the BIOS at boot.
grape_ape
08-09-2003, 03:38 PM
i am in bios. where do i find version?
Budfred
08-09-2003, 03:40 PM
I believe it is usually posted at the top of the page or it may be a separate entry. It can vary depending on the BIOS. It also lists it on the opening screen, but that usually goes by too fast to see and write it down. You may be able to use the Pause Break key to stop it, but I am not sure how that goes....
grape_ape
08-09-2003, 03:42 PM
awardbios v6.00pg ?
grape_ape
08-09-2003, 03:45 PM
oh, it says K7VEM PRO_2DA1
soyo latest says BIOS Revision: K7VEM PRO_2DA1
so i guess its updated
Budfred
08-09-2003, 05:14 PM
Okay, then we are back to what diagnostics you have run.... Did you run a RAM tester and the hard drive diagnostics? Just because they run properly elsewhere doesn't mean they are running properly here. If the RAM doesn't pass the tests, it suggests that there is something wrong with the motherboard. If the hard drive didn't pass, it would suggest a bad IDE port on the motherboard, a bad cable and/or a jumper problem. If they do both pass, then at least we have narrowed the field of suspects....
grape_ape
08-14-2003, 08:10 PM
Thanks Budfred. I cannot even run the hdd diagnostics,it freezes there as well. I have exchanged the memory as well. It will only let me run the windows 98 startup disk, or preconfigged drivers from XP. then whether I type fdisk or format or setup , it freezes.
It will only let me run the windows 98 startup disk, or preconfigged drivers from XP. then whether I type fdisk or format or setup , it freezes.
You have either a bad cable or a bad hard drive.......
I would try a new cable first.
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