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tomtomg59
02-11-2002, 09:33 PM
Hello, Everyone, Does anyone know where i can go to enable the Volume Control Scroll Bars? My friend has a windowsME and they suddenly disappeared, but the sound adjustment still goes up and down OK! You know what i mean? When you adjust the sound the scroll bars go across the bottom of the screen to show you how high or low the volume is! Just before they disappeared, i put the OSK(on screen keyboard) on his desktop. But that should not have anything to do with it! Any idea's as to how to get it back? Any thoughts at all would be ok. TOM
rond36
02-12-2002, 01:24 AM
Is this part of your friends keyboard software if so check the settings for that program. If it isn't part of Windows we don't know how to fix it because we don't have it unless it is a popular program and we at least know what program it is.
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This OSK program, wher was it before you put on the Desktop? The startup folder by any chance?
If it was and you want the scroll bars back, try manually starting it by clicking the icon...that should enable it for that particular session, if you want them basck permanently, then sorry to say it has to goe back to Startup..............
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tomtomg59
02-12-2002, 06:14 AM
Hi Guys, No, OSK is on screen keyboard that i got on a tip and it is not a special program it simply puts the OSk on the monitor! How i did it was i went to run window and typed OSK and oK and it appears on the desktop, i really don't see how that could do anything to the Volume Scroll bars (unless when i was punching in some keys on it, for experimenting i accidentally punched a key that controls the scroll bars,.but i doubt that too! I did this to my XP and it works great and it did not take away my scroll bars! It may have been a coinsidence that this happened at the same time, I just don't know? I have to find out what puts those scroll bars on the screen and how they are deleted?
bassman
02-12-2002, 11:01 AM
Hello Tom,
I run ME on several machines, with different configurations, and have never seen these scroll bars you describe. If I understand, you are talking about something different then the volume slide that pops up from the system tray when you click once on the speaker icon.
If you dbl click on the speaker, are those the controls you are talking about?
Could this have anything to do with the sound software you use?
Are they just at the bottom of the desktop normaly?
As for OSK, I just tried that and it said "Could not find." Thats a curious thing http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif , never heard of that either. What exactly does it do?
Hehehehe http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif seems we have more questions for you then you do for us.
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tomtomg59
02-12-2002, 01:02 PM
Bassman: Yes i am talking about something different than the pop up volume control, Although they may be linked, but i checked out your instructions and right clicked on the taskbar volume control and it did not help me! Please Let me explain again, We have an HP computer and keyboard and on the keyboard (at the top Right) there is a large Round button with a an arrow pointing up (for louder sound) and an arrow pointing down (for lowering the sound) But when you press on it the word VOLUME comes up on the screen Monitor and under that there are scroll bars to show you How low or high the sound is moving! The more you press the up arrow then the more the scroll bars move across the bottom of the screen from left to right! I think by now you know what i mean and the scroll bars just disappeared for some reason and there must be a way of getting them back? The on screen keyboard is just an added windows xp feature for the handicapped. The only reason i mentioned the onscreen keyboard is because that was the last thing i was experimenting with when the scroll bars disappeared, but it may not have anything to do with it! If you or anyone can come up with a theory, it would be appreciated, TOM
bassman
02-12-2002, 07:45 PM
OK, now it makes more sense http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif
I would have to say this is something specific to this keyboard relating to your sound software. Probably on the HP install disk is something that you may need to reinstall.
First try to find the keyboard goodies (probably in Control Panel) and look to see if the volume control has been disabled. Also check in Device manager to see if there are any conflicts.
I now understand about OSK http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif
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tomtomg59
02-12-2002, 09:21 PM
Bassman, I found no conflicts and there is no settings for scroll bar in OSK, Like i said maybe it has nothing to do with the OSK? and I always run into this problem and that is I never got any install disks with my pc, its strickly OEM packaged deal! I asked about the installation disk when i first got this pc and they told me, that i don't need one because the installation is on a 3rd partition in xp home! (big deal I still don't know how to get my installation of the OS installed if it goes all together(I'll have to look into that later)!
SandraD
02-12-2002, 10:00 PM
What your looking for Tom is a program that can be downloaded from HP's web site. It is a nifty little utility that comes with there multimedia keyboards. I think your talking about the on screen volume control button that zooms across your screen when you turn up the volume? Try there web site. You would probably have to know your model number in order to get the proper drivers.
tomtomg59
02-12-2002, 10:07 PM
Sandra, Thank You I will also look into it, Tom
Flick
02-12-2002, 11:42 PM
I have an HP with Windows ME and I think I can help you. Click on Start. Click on Run. Type "msconfig" (without the quotes) and then click Ok. You'll then get a big menu of options. Click the "Startup" tab. Then scroll down the menu and look for "Keyboard Manager". If the box next to Keyboard Manager is not checked, then check it. Click ok and then restart your computer. Your volume scroll bar will be back. If you don't find "Keyboard Manager" in the startup area, then you're going to have to use your rescue disks. Hope this helped you.
tomtomg59
02-13-2002, 06:19 AM
Flick,, My friend has WindowsME and its from HP too! Do you have a Keyboard Manager on your pc?
YODA74
02-13-2002, 06:29 AM
I run Me and just typed in OSK it came up for me it's just an on screen key board that is for the imobeley handy capped I'll play around today and see if it has anything to do with the dissaperance of slider which i dout.
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tomtomg59
02-13-2002, 06:46 AM
Yoda74 Thank You i would appreciate that and i will do the same! I also got a feeling that OSK has nothing to do with it now and I only mentioned OSK because that was the last thing i was doing on my friends ME when this happened, of course i could have hit something that controls the scroll bars! I would sure like to know what puts them up on the screen in the first place, i have Xp and OSK is on my desktop with no problem and i still have the scroll bars too! Please let me know if you found anything or not, TOM
YODA74
02-13-2002, 08:06 AM
Look under MsConfig>startup menu> look to see if you have anything like Key board preload and Hot Key (sk9910DM.exe)? if so put a check in the two boxes and restart see if that helps.?? other than that it must have to do with HP OEM you may have to reload Or drop the Millenium key board and reload just it?
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Flick
02-13-2002, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by tomtomg59:
Flick,, My friend has WindowsME and its from HP too! Do you have a Keyboard Manager on your pc?
The Keyboard Manager is a special software add that HP puts on their machines to control the 20 or so special keys at the top of the keyboard (i.e. the 7 Internet buttons, the 5 cd/dvd/mp3 buttons, the sleep button, etc). The volume control (the rotor dial on the upper right of the keyboard) will work without this software but the green (default) color volume scroll at the bottom left of the screen will not appear (it looks very much like a TV volume scroll bar). I do not use the keyboard manager on my HP because it's such a memory hog. It takes up about 3 to 5% of system resources! So I diabled mine (unchecked the Keyboard Manager box in the startup menu). However, if you want it back, follow my instructions above and you'll get it back.
tomtomg59
02-13-2002, 06:10 PM
Flick, You are 100% right as to my friends problem. Can you tell me exactly how it is written in the startup menu? Maybe give me the correct spelling as it appears there?
Flick
02-13-2002, 06:33 PM
It is spelled, "Keyboard Manager" and has a little box to the left. If it is not there, then you will have to run the HP rescue disks or use the Windows ME system restore feature to "go back" to the time before you lost it. First, go to "HP Tools" in your program files and see if the Keyboard Manager is located there. If you can't find it in "HP Tools" then try the Windows ME system restore. Just go back to a date prior to the time you lost the volume scroll bar. If that fails, then break out the HP resuce disks as a last resort!
tomtomg59
02-13-2002, 09:11 PM
To Flick and Everyone, Thank You and I will try all these different things when i get to my friends house! I will post back the results, meanwhile if anyone has any else to add, please let me know, TOM
tomtomg59
02-15-2002, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Flick:
I have an HP with Windows ME and I think I can help you. Click on Start. Click on Run. Type "msconfig" (without the quotes) and then click Ok. You'll then get a big menu of options. Click the "Startup" tab. Then scroll down the menu and look for "Keyboard Manager". If the box next to Keyboard Manager is not checked, then check it. Click ok and then restart your computer. Your volume scroll bar will be back. If you don't find "Keyboard Manager" in the startup area, then you're going to have to use your rescue disks. Hope this helped you. Flick, i am at my friends house now and did exactly as you said (here) and I got the Volume Scroll Bars back for him, Thank You very much and Thank you all for your kind assistance, This is the way you find out things by tosing it around and seeing what idea's everyone has and narrowing it down! Believe me (even though) I don't have windowsME, I will never forget this, How that thing got unchecked in the first place, I'll never know! Thank You again everyone, TOM
Flick
02-15-2002, 05:59 PM
Great! I'm glad it worked out for you. However, the real thanks should go to mjc! He was kind enough to answer some questions for me (I'm still in the process of attempting to install a new hard drive) and while looking for more information related to my problem, I saw your post. I just thought I should attempt to do my best to help return the favor that was given to me. Glad I could help.
bassman
02-15-2002, 07:45 PM
http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Hmmmm, MJC, the ghost in the machine??????
HEHEHEHE
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