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Paul1008
03-07-2002, 09:29 PM
I've got a Celeron 500 (not over clocked) on a P6BAT-A+ ECS motherboard. For the last few months its been hanging for no reason. It can run fine for hours before it happens or it may do it straight away. Its got a 40GB Seagate hard drive, partitioned into 3. It only shows 37GB in Win. I'm not to bothered about the lost space but could that be a reason? If I run scandisk in Win or DOS it freezes but if I plug it in to another PC as a slave it works. A major time it hangs is when transferring stuff between the drives or something thats accesing the drive alot. I tried reinstalling Win (98B) and replacing the partitions (with FDISK) but no luck. The cluster sizes are different (A-4, B,C-8) but that doesn't make any difference as far as I know? I've got the latest drivers from the motherboard web-site. Also when I try to burn a CD (Scsi burner) it crashes.I tried resetting the CMOS but nothing. All the fans are working.
If I'm playing music when it crashes the song will get stuck at that exact point (like a stuck CD) When it's working it says there are no problems but there definitley is. Any ideas anyone please?? Paul

mjc
03-07-2002, 10:50 PM
The space difference is the space the file system occupies and the different ways of measuring 40GB....The drive manufacturers use a measuremnt of 1GB being 1,000,000,000 bytes Windows measure 1 GB as being 1,073,742,000 bytes. So there is not really any missing space, so that is not your problem...

Sounds like it could be heat, power or memory related...

When was the last time it was really cleaned out in sinde (dust bunny removal)?

Are all the fans working?

You can try openning it up and placing a small household fan blowing into it, if it stops then is is hwaet related, you will either need to add an additional case fane or replace the heatsink fan.

If the above doesnn't help and you are running with more than one stick of RAM pull one and run it for a while, then try the other (unless it completely stops after pulling the first one),



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Paul1008
03-09-2002, 12:00 AM
MJC

I've tried removing the different RAM. It doesn't seem to make much differnce except the 128MB chip kept it running longer than than the 64MB chip. I've borrowed another 128MB making a total of 320MB. Isn't this alot for a basic to make my sytem run with still some faliure?

Also I've got the case off at the moment so I can play around with the RAM so it may be cooler. Theres not much dust and I got rid of alot of it.

When I run scandisk now, in DOS it says theres a problem it can't fix from there so run it in Windows, in Windows it comes up with the problem of "Your computer does not have enough aviliable memory to complete this task......" The only option is to retry because the ignore option is blanked out. Will getting even more RAM solve this? (I think from when it found the problem first it may be in Win\history\history\IE5 which I can't access from Windows, will formatting remove this problem?)

My plan for when the shops opens tomorrow is to get another 128MB RAM giving me 456MB till I give the borrowed amount back. Is this likely to solve the Scandisk problem? Also, just in case I was going to get a new heat sink and fan.

Is this the best course of action to try to solve this problem, or am I missing something? - Is the scandisk problem something major?

Paul

Paul1008
03-09-2002, 12:02 AM
And by the way it's a newish case and power supply (about 6 months old) and it all semms to be working OK. I've tried specifying the amount of virtual memory (to 600MB) but it makes no differnece.

[This message has been edited by Paul1008 (edited 03-08-2002).]

mjc
03-09-2002, 12:36 AM
The amount of memory you have should be more than sufficient...there is definitley another problem.

This (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q134986) article deals with that error in W95 and having system polices enabled and the drives hidden....

Here (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q132832) is another one for 95 that discusses a limit to the number of files/folders scandisk can scan....

If you are getting the error because your history folder is full try booting into Safe mode, if it lets you in go to the control panel -> internet options -> General -> Temporary Internet Files -> DELETE, also you can use the deltree command to delete the history folder from DOS...info on deltree (http://www3.sympatico.ca/rhwatson/dos7/z-deltree.html), just make sure that you have the exact and proper path if you use the deltree command.


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Paul1008
03-10-2002, 08:14 PM
MJC

I've just tried running the Seagate disc diagnosis program.
It failed my C drive during the partition check, saying partition 1 had 8192 critical structure errors. It passed the other two partitions fine.
To repair the problem it said run scandisk, which I can't because nothing seems to stop it saying "..not enough memory to complete.."

My PC doesn't have any seperate users so all files are scanned and I've tried deleting my temp files but it doesn't make any difference.
I deleted alot of files from the c drive and ran scandisk. It found the problem (Win\history\history\IE5) and gave me 3 options. I tried truncating the file name and deleting the folder. Both times it came up with ...not enough memory.... The 3rd option was to ignore. After that it wouldn't even find the problem again, just ..not enough memory...

Any ideas? I thought about trying a low level format but not sure if that would do any good or if it would invalidate my warranty.

Thanks,
Paul