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FJM005
05-06-2005, 02:47 PM
I recently purchased an AOpen AK77-600N Motherboard with an AMD Athlon XP 2900+ packaged with it. I also purchased 2 512MB DDR400 ram sticks. When I press the power button, The AOpen screen comes up and it says AMD Athlon XP 1000????? (It also says this under "system" in the control panel.) It also says (in the bios) DDR266 Ram instead of DDR400. Does anyone know anything I can do to get the correct speed out of my processor and RAM? Thanks in advance. either post a reply here, or email me at FJM005~~AT~~aol.com
Fruss Tray Ted
05-06-2005, 03:17 PM
Well this is your lucky day! :D
First, welcome to http://www.pcguide.com/ubb/pcgubb.gif forums!!!
Secondly, I just ordered (came in today) that very motherboard to replace an ASUS mobo that developed problems recording sound. Which I was using to capture video (no, not the old silent movies either :rolleyes: ) so I needed a replacement. Got my board for $27 !!! refurbed, of course..
Did you go in BIOS setup and set the memory timings and other parameters to get the processor running at the right speed? I just downloaded the manual from AOpen (http://download.aopen.com.tw/default.aspx) and I'm going over it right now. I just downloaded all the drivers, manuals, read-me's and utilities for that mobo onto a partition that will remain on the drive that I will use with the AOpen board.
I will be using a Barton XP 2500+ on it so I expect to need to change the clock settings in BIOS as well. The ASUS board is still in the case and running so I cannot enter BIOS and explain it that way, but I will get this built this weekend so if you can't find the settings in the manual from the site I linked to, I'll give you a hand if you post back that you can't find the settings needed.
Depending what memory is installed and the FSB of the processor, you will most likely have different settings than I will.
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EDIT:
There is an EIG/DIY pdf file at the AOpen site which is an Easy Install Guide / do-it-yourself manual that looks to be very helpful and easier to read than the complete manual. A good quick start guide fer-shur :D Gimme a holler if you still need assistance. :)
FJM005
05-06-2005, 03:27 PM
Well this is your lucky day! :D
First, welcome to http://www.pcguide.com/ubb/pcgubb.gif forums!!!
Secondly, I just ordered (came in today) that very motherboard to replace an ASUS mobo that developed problems recording sound. Which I was using to capture video (no, not the old silent movies either :rolleyes: ) so I needed a replacement. Got my board for $27 !!! refurbed, of course..
Did you go in BIOS setup and set the memory timings and other parameters to get the processor running at the right speed? I just downloaded the manual from AOpen (http://download.aopen.com.tw/default.aspx) and I'm going over it right now. I just downloaded all the drivers, manuals, read-me's and utilities for that mobo onto a partition that will remain on the drive that I will use with the AOpen board.
I will be using a Barton XP 2500+ on it so I expect to need to change the clock settings in BIOS as well. The ASUS board is still in the case and running so I cannot enter BIOS and explain it that way, but I will get this built this weekend so if you can't find the settings in the manual from the site I linked to, I'll give you a hand if you post back that you can't find the settings needed.
Depending what memory is installed and the FSB of the processor, you will most likely have different settings than I will.
I didn't expect such a speedy reply........awesome! yeah, I'm not at my computer right now. I'm actually in school. When I get home I will take a look at the bios. I read that my processor (Athlon XP 2900+)should go up to 2ghz. So, should I change the bios to make it run at this speed? I will look to see if you replied when i get home tonight. That is just my guess at to what I should do. (I'm just a little scared because I don't want to fry my new motherboard or CPU by changing the clock speed!) Thanks again for your help. feel free to email me
Fruss Tray Ted
05-06-2005, 03:47 PM
You should not post your email addy without disguising it so the spam bots don't get ahold of it. Don't worry if you can't edit it. I alerted one of the mods to do it for you.
And to your newer question. I'm not 100% sure what the 2900 should run at but you wil know you have it right when the BIOS screen early during bootup, correctly reports that you have an Athlon XP 2900. I think it will also report the true speed it is operating at also.
If the screen goes by too fast you can reboot and keep using the pause key almost instantaneously after the scroll bar over and over during boot until the right screen remains frozen on your display to read at your leisure (Then just any key to continue). Another way to slow it down a little is to reduce down to just one stick of RAM until you've seen what you need.
Paul Komski
05-06-2005, 05:29 PM
I edited it OK. BTW as long as you have OK'd it in your ControlPanel people can email you directly by first Clicking on your name and then choosing the email option. This prevents you ever having to display a private eMail addy.
Fruss Tray Ted
05-06-2005, 09:22 PM
Thanks Paul,
Looks nice :D
You do good work if I do say so myself! LOL!!!
Progress:
ASUS disassembled and removed, heatsink + pad removed, CPU, RAM attached to new mobo, heatsink lapped (and what a chore! I couldn't believe how deep the scratches were on the retail HSF!!! ), rear 'detachable' plate modified due to one extra serial port (tinsnips, wood chisels and punches. I couldn't find my nibbler :o ), mobo installed, agp card installed, tower still on it's side. I think it's resting. I am, for the moment... ;)
Paul Komski
05-07-2005, 03:06 AM
As long as FJM005 is happy. If not we can edit it back and let the spammers get to him. ;)
Fruss Tray Ted
05-07-2005, 10:26 AM
Ok,
Time to make the doughnuts... well sorta, I've had a couple coffees and now let's see if we can get this show on the road. ;) Please power down, unplug power cable and press the on button before proceeding.
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Did you get a cd with your purchase? If not, I suggest you download all applicable drivers, data etc, from the AOpen site I linked to above.
There's a jumper on that board you need to set if it isn't already done. You mentioned the memory that came with the package is DDR400 so the setting should be on the last pair of pins. In my case, with DDR333, I'll be using the third set of pins. And in reading the manual, looking online for any info for the mysteriously nonexistant Athlon 2900 (is it a Barton? Who knows?), you may want to put this jumper on the 3rd set for now for safety reasons and see what the BIOS screen reports before trying the 4th set of pins. I cannot find any information if the 2900 is DDR 400 or 333 so let's be safe for the moment and use the slower speed. This can be changed later if neccessary. If the jumper is already set to the 4th position and you have no problems booting, just leave it and we'll try a monitoring software later on to see what it is running at.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/M99ER/FSBjumpers.jpg
While I continue to wire and assemble the rest of this beast, let me know when you get this far. I've got a bit to go yet to be able to get into setup.
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FJM005
05-07-2005, 01:37 PM
Ok,
Time to make the doughnuts... well sorta, I've had a couple coffees and now let's see if we can get this show on the road. ;) Please power down, unplug power cable and press the on button before proceeding.
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Did you get a cd with your purchase? If not, I suggest you download all applicable drivers, data etc, from the AOpen site I linked to above.
There's a jumper on that board you need to set if it isn't already done. You mentioned the memory that came with the package is DDR400 so the setting should be on the last pair of pins. In my case, with DDR333, I'll be using the third set of pins. And in reading the manual, looking online for any info for the mysteriously nonexistant Athlon 2900 (is it a Barton? Who knows?), you may want to put this jumper on the 3rd set for now for safety reasons and see what the BIOS screen reports before trying the 4th set of pins. I cannot find any information if the 2900 is DDR 400 or 333 so let's be safe for the moment and use the slower speed. This can be changed later if neccessary. If the jumper is already set to the 4th position and you have no problems booting, just leave it and we'll try a monitoring software later on to see what it is running at.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/M99ER/FSBjumpers.jpg
While I continue to wire and assemble the rest of this beast, let me know when you get this far. I've got a bit to go yet to be able to get into setup.
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Thanks a lot. I am about to power down, and switch the "little thingy" you just metioned. I'll post back on the results.
FJM005
05-07-2005, 01:59 PM
OMG!!! Thank you all soo much! It worked! I have one more question though. Should I move the jumper to the last set of pins. (FSB 200) to get my processing speed up to 2.0Ghz? I moved it to the 3rd set, and it's working fine right now. But it's only 1.66Ghz. I'm assuming that I should move it, butI just wanted to make sure........
Fruss Tray Ted
05-07-2005, 02:59 PM
No need to use the quote button for a reply with my entire post in yours. Just use the reply button, thanks.
If you have the jumper on the 166 speed setting, what does the motherboard report your processor as being in bootup screen? If it's 2900, I'd leave it (not being an overclocker myself). But if it is still reporting it below what it should, by all means, put it on the 200FSB pins.
This is not an overclocker's forum but some of us here have done it and I know some that are using oc'ed boards right now. I want dependability and long life with my components so I'm not interested in oc'ing my board.
I'm already impressed with the sound softwares available for this mobo from AOpen and I'm anxious to get back to capturing videos and audio tapes. :p
I did however, happen to find a few forums, while digging up info on this mobo of peeps who did overclock this board with a Barton 2500 up to 3200 but you need to make sure your cooling is superior to stock equipment. Also in the BIOS there is a feature that will beep if the temp goes above a certain settable point, so I suggest you enable that prior to 'messing' with it.
Just Google your board and overclocking in the dialog box and I'm quite positive you'll find tons of information.
Oh, and you're welcome. Now, can I get back to assembling my studio? ;) Have fun with it...
FJM005
05-07-2005, 05:00 PM
My motherboard has an option about setting a "warning" for the CPU. If is gets above a certain degrees, it will warn me with an annoying beeping sound. What should I set this to? it keeps goin off. (right now it is at about 63 degrees C). Should I turn the warning feature off? It is off by default......
Fruss Tray Ted
05-07-2005, 05:13 PM
It should run closer to 40 degrees celcius. I set mine for 60C.
Wow!! :eek: I just went into BIOS to see my temps. I lapped my heatsink yesterday and where it used to run about 44C, it's now 31C!!! COOL!! (pun intended) :D
What speed are you running at? You could simply be overclocking and the extra current's heat is just not being dissipated well enoiugh by your present HSF combo. If you are not oc'ing, you will need to get some Arctic Silver compound, remove your heatsink, lap it (I'll get you a link shortly), apply compound and reassemble. That should lower the temps to a decent level. I still can't believe I gained about 13 degrees in coolness! :cool:
Edit:
http://www.overclockersclub.com/guides/heatsinklappingguide.php
FJM005
05-07-2005, 06:22 PM
Yeah I didn't think my CPU was supposed to be that hot. It starts out at 40 degrees C whenI startup the Computer. Then, when I start playing a game, it starts the inferno beeping. (Which means it is past 60 degrees C) This sucks, major. Do I need to apply somet kind of gel to the bottom of the heatsink?
saphalline
05-07-2005, 06:32 PM
With a retail version of any CPU, the heatsink will have thermal tape on the bottom. The thermal tape will also have a thin plastic film over it to protect it during packaging & shipping. If you haven't removed that plastic film yet, it would explain your high CPU temp.
Fruss Tray Ted
05-07-2005, 06:47 PM
Well my bliss was short lived. :(
I went into BIOS just after a long spell of hibernation so I got the low readings. As it sat there it gradually crept up to 40C but it is still 4 degrees less than before. I've put the blank plates where there's no cards and put the side of the case back on to see if airflow will affect it.
FJM,
Considering you are a gamer, keep the fan control to 'full' in BIOS. Throttling it down wouldn't be my idea of safe.
You still haven't said what you have it running at... :rolleyes:
FJM005
05-08-2005, 05:59 PM
I am running at 2ghz
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