Celedor
04-18-2002, 10:39 PM
Good day to all of you! I am not really into Hardware, but I think I have enough basic knowledge to try and diagnose my PC - with the help of the PC Troubleshooter, and hopefully, you.
My System:
AMD Athlon 700 MHz
P266 Motherboard
128Mb 3.3V DIMM SDRAM
Onboard everything
My Story:
It started out with a few crashes after long periods of use. This I dismissed for memory leaks and the general instability that Windows usually exhibits.
As time passed, the PC started freezing more often, and sometimes at boot. Still, I was complacent, and let it go by. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
Finally, after a period where the computer was particularly stubborn (constant crashing around 5 minutes into boot), the computer displayed a CMOS Failure message after the memory test. I turned off the power, and after a while, turned it back on. It booted fine, until it got past the Windows Splash screen.
Then it started randomly freezing anywhere in the boot process to the first 5 minutes after boot. I can tolerate a computer that crashes occasionally, but this rendered the PC unusable for practical purposes... So I decided to do some tests.
I turned off all the onboard everything on the system BIOS... I also made a System Check - my CPU temperature read 80 degrees Celsius, and the CPU Fan was at 0 RPM.
I tried booting the hard disk on another computer - worked fine, ruling out the possibility of a virus(?)/software problem. I also tried booting a foreign disk on my computer, and it still exhibited the same freezing problems - except that when it tried to load HIMEM.SYS, it displayed a "Unstable XMS Memory located at address XXXXXX" message. XXXXXX changed with each bootup.
When booting to DOS instead of Windows, the computer manages to stay functional for a longer period of time - around 15 minutes to 1 hour.
I opened the computer and verified that the CPU Fan is indeed not running. I do not feel any air flowing when I place my hand over it. The Processor underneath however, doesn't look burnt. The temperature rises pretty quickly from 30 Celsius to around 80 Celsius a few minutes after a "cold boot"
My Diagnosis:
Processor Overheating - CPU Temp and System Fan certainly seem indicative of that. It could either be the fan power supply or the fan itself that is damaged. Possibly a dead Processor(?)
..or..
Bad Memory - Caused by overheating? The HIMEM.SYS error makes me throw this out as a guess.
..or..
Bad Board - Caused by The Devil?
Questions:
Is it possible for a processor to be "partially damaged", or is it an "all-or-nothing" thing where the processor either functions or it doesn't, instead of being unstable?
Is there something which I may have overlooked, or do not know that may have caused me to make a misdiagnosis?
I will be able to borrow spare RAM and a new Fan later today, and I will try replacing both (one after the other, then both) components of my system. Hopefully this will solve the problem.
Any other suggestions?
Thank you for your time.
My System:
AMD Athlon 700 MHz
P266 Motherboard
128Mb 3.3V DIMM SDRAM
Onboard everything
My Story:
It started out with a few crashes after long periods of use. This I dismissed for memory leaks and the general instability that Windows usually exhibits.
As time passed, the PC started freezing more often, and sometimes at boot. Still, I was complacent, and let it go by. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
Finally, after a period where the computer was particularly stubborn (constant crashing around 5 minutes into boot), the computer displayed a CMOS Failure message after the memory test. I turned off the power, and after a while, turned it back on. It booted fine, until it got past the Windows Splash screen.
Then it started randomly freezing anywhere in the boot process to the first 5 minutes after boot. I can tolerate a computer that crashes occasionally, but this rendered the PC unusable for practical purposes... So I decided to do some tests.
I turned off all the onboard everything on the system BIOS... I also made a System Check - my CPU temperature read 80 degrees Celsius, and the CPU Fan was at 0 RPM.
I tried booting the hard disk on another computer - worked fine, ruling out the possibility of a virus(?)/software problem. I also tried booting a foreign disk on my computer, and it still exhibited the same freezing problems - except that when it tried to load HIMEM.SYS, it displayed a "Unstable XMS Memory located at address XXXXXX" message. XXXXXX changed with each bootup.
When booting to DOS instead of Windows, the computer manages to stay functional for a longer period of time - around 15 minutes to 1 hour.
I opened the computer and verified that the CPU Fan is indeed not running. I do not feel any air flowing when I place my hand over it. The Processor underneath however, doesn't look burnt. The temperature rises pretty quickly from 30 Celsius to around 80 Celsius a few minutes after a "cold boot"
My Diagnosis:
Processor Overheating - CPU Temp and System Fan certainly seem indicative of that. It could either be the fan power supply or the fan itself that is damaged. Possibly a dead Processor(?)
..or..
Bad Memory - Caused by overheating? The HIMEM.SYS error makes me throw this out as a guess.
..or..
Bad Board - Caused by The Devil?
Questions:
Is it possible for a processor to be "partially damaged", or is it an "all-or-nothing" thing where the processor either functions or it doesn't, instead of being unstable?
Is there something which I may have overlooked, or do not know that may have caused me to make a misdiagnosis?
I will be able to borrow spare RAM and a new Fan later today, and I will try replacing both (one after the other, then both) components of my system. Hopefully this will solve the problem.
Any other suggestions?
Thank you for your time.