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Kjones
05-01-2002, 05:50 PM
My sys keeps rebooting w/o notice. Infamous "blue" screen pops up telling me to disable cache and shadowing. I am also getting some other messages: Page_Fault_In_Nonpaged_Area
Tech Info: Stop: 0X00000050 (OXFFFFFFE5,OXOOOOOOO1,OXOOOOOOO1,OXBFDEOD82)
nv4.DLL - Address BFDEOD82 base at BFDB0000, Datestamp 3b7d92f4
Physical dump of memory.

I have 1.6 AMD Athlon w/ 512M DDR Ram, Nvidia Geforce 2 GTS v-card.
current sys temp is 109...cpu temp is 99

I have replaced the hard drive thinking that was the problem and changed OS back to 2000 professional. That did not fix it so I fdisk and started over again with XP Home. I moved the NIC card to different slot and that got rid of the IRQ Not less or equal error, but I can't seem to figure this other one out.

Please advise....can't get to work and shop where I bought this @#$% machine is out of business.....GO FIGURE. THANKS!!! frustrated.

[This message has been edited by Kjones (edited 05-01-2002).]

Whyzman
05-01-2002, 10:59 PM
Hello Kjones,

Welcome to http://www.pcguide.com/ubb/pcgubb.gif Forums!

Was your setup ever working correctly?

What Motherboard are you using?

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ski
05-02-2002, 01:03 PM
109 deg F system temperature sounds high.
Take off the case cover, make sure all fans are running, the inside has no dust buildup, and no cables or wires are blocking any fan's airflow.
Also, do not locate the computer in an enclosed cubicle.
If these are ok, then run an external fan blowing on the interior with the case cover removed. If this works, then you may have to install some extra case fans.

Kjones
05-02-2002, 03:24 PM
Thanks for the reply WHYZMAN and SKI.

I don't believe that the system ever was working at 100%. I took it back the first time and he charged me $$$ to reload the software. I could have done that myself.

My motherboard is:

1st Mainboard AD11
Support Socket A CPU
AMD 761 + VIA686B Chipset
DDR SDRAM + AGP4X + ATA 100
Audio Alert II (whatever that is)

Nvidia Geforce 2 GTS vid-card
Soundblaster Sound
512M DDR Ram
7200rpm 40gig HD (western digital)

I turned of some of the bios settings at the computer's request and don't know if that has anything to do with it. I tried the fail-safe defaults and it still happens. What is the nv4.dll? I don't understand the page fualt message either. I took the case cover off and it still happens. I am not sure exactly what temp the sys is running at right now, but I will post it as soon as I check. Thank you so much for your time. KJ

Kjones
05-02-2002, 03:39 PM
Just to answer previous ?'s

My cpu temp is 120
current sys temp is 105
Vcore = 1.78
3.3V = 3.28
5v = 5.00
12v = 12.42

Please advise thanks again guys!!!

Sylvander
05-02-2002, 05:46 PM
Hello kjones

I'm no expert in this but:

I believe you have a RAM memory usage problem.

On my PC, in the BIOS setup, in "Chipset Features Setup" my "System BIOS Cacheable" is "Enabled" and "Video BIOS Cacheable" is also "Enabled".
This means that;
1. My "System BIOS" [and also my "Video BIOS"]which are a set of simple [but VERY essential]programs [which directly control the hardware, such as your monitor display!] stored and running from the [slow] CMOS memory are being copied during the Boot process to [a location somewhere in] the much faster RAM memory. So now you need to know all about DOS memory usage, lower memory area, upper memory area, extended memory etc. and the "Extended Memory Manager" "EMM386.exe".
Basic DOS programs [like the BIOS prog's] all normally work in the lower memory area and this area is rather tiny [640 kB?] and when your PC runs out of this you are in deep trouble. That's why EMM386 [the memory manager] is utilised and the Extended Memory area is brought into use by putting only the addresses of its spaces down in lower memory. The addresses take up very little room [it's like an index or a "File Allocation Table" = FAT].

A "Page Fault" occurs when a program goes to get some info it stored temporarily in "memory"

[that's (Primary Cache, Secondary Cache,RAM,Paging File)].
[Paging file = Swap File = Win386.swp (on you c:\ drive by default)]

and it is given rubbish info in reply, because in the interval between storing and retrieving [due to the shortage of space]some other nasty prog has overwritten it's data, [and it's in a "Non Paged Area" which means somewhere above the swap file (ie Primary Cache, Secondary Cache,RAM)].
Be aware of the "Pyramid" of "Higherarchical" memory usage.

SOLUTION
You need to use "conventional memory management".
I used to use "Memmaker.exe" in Windows 95.
[on the "Other\OldDOS" directory on the Windows 95 CD-ROM].
You make a Boot Disk and copy Memmaker to it and run it using a DOS command after Booting to the floppy.
All this is described in the Windows 95 Resource Kit Help Files.

Perhaps someone out there knows how to do it with later Operating Systems.

I hope someone out there can confirm that I'm not talking total rubish!

ski
05-03-2002, 10:08 AM
105 deg F system temp still sounds high. My computer is currently running with a system temp of 82 and a CPU temp of 118.
Remove the cover, try the fan, and go from there.