I admit upfront that when I purchased my d135 HP officejet I was completely oblivious to the fact that it uses ink carts with a designed life expectancy.

It stopped printing for my wife whilst I was out of town this past week and my replacement cart, which is still in the wrapper, expired yesterday.

I'm fascinated by this!

My research turned up a couple of class action suits that will put HP's marketing strategies to the test.

Information on how HP accomplishes tracking expiration dates on the cartridges is quite diverse. I'm beginning to wonder if some of the information is actually disinformation just to stir the pot...

The D series officejet uses a technology called as TIJ 3. Am assuming that you printer also has a print head. Now the reason why the printer stopped printing is just because the catridge has experied ( the chip in the catridge does the work and informs the unit abt the expiry ). Now there is a tendency with the ink to harden as it ages. so if by any chance if the ink enters the print head it will also damage the print head which again will cost you money to get it replaced, so in order to avoid that, the printer stop working.....just get a brand new catridge and ur printer will start working. HP officejet d series and the 7100 series use the same TIJ-3 technology !!

I recall a discussion about changing the date back a year or 2 on your pc to fool the printer and cartridge into thinking that it is not yet expired. I've not done it myself so I cannot verify it's success.

I don't think that will work coz, the chip in the catridge communicates directly with the printer, this also happens when u use the printer as a standalone unit also. Get in touch with HP Tech support they will let you know in details !!

I use my d135 for printing photos and since I do a bit of this, I refill the carts. I'm willing to accept the risk of ruining a printhead as I am very meticulous about making sure they are kept filled.

Yes, I do need to turn off the HP ink moitoring system...

I really don't care to contact HP, or their tech-support for information because my warranty is long gone, and they charge for calls as I recall... They also charged me for a Me driver upgrade from Win98 which I deemed to be inappropriate. They aren't making friends and influencing people when they don't allow a simple upgrade download via the net.

I did find a workaround, although I've not experimented with all the details. Mine is running with the date at Jan000000000 and has accepted my expired and refilled color cartridge. For some reason the expired black cart it would not???

It was necessary to pull the button battery on the motherboard inside the unit, just as one would to reset the CMOS BIOS default values.

I have not reinstalled the HP software as yet onto my computer, but I suspect the learning curve will increase when I start scanning photos again and save to disk. If the software is capable of monitoring the ink levels and shutting me down as before, I may just need to do the scanning and perform the battery pop once again...

Actually i don't have any experience using HP cartridge... i am using EPSON all my life.. but i heard lots of negative feedbacks about it..
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My D145 did the same thing some months ago
I also had an old replacement and it expired within months

The cure was easy for me
Buy new ink and check the dates printed on the outside of the package

I found a few OLD ink cartridges on the shelf in one of the Big Box stores that expired within a month or two of that date

Check double check and keep on printing.
BTW.
The expire date has no affect on scanning or saving files.
it only causes the print and copy features to stop or fail.

Actually i don't have any experience using HP cartridge... i am using EPSON all my life.. but i heard lots of negative feedbacks about it..
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Ofcourse Epson cartridge gives much problems, and while purchasing any Ink Don't judge a freephotopaper.SPAM /ink_store cartridge [/URL]just by its price; the number of pages it can print is just as important. That figure will change depending on how much ink you use on a page; the industry-standard is 5% coverage per page for each color. Some companies make yield information available on the Web along with other printer specifications; others will provide it if you ask.

I have an HP d1320. When I run out of ink for the black cartridge I refill it. I've refilled it twice and it works fine. After I refill it, I will sometimes get a message that says the cartridge is out of ink. I just ignore it and start printing. On my color cartridge, I can fill it one time. But then when it runs out of ink again, I have to buy another. If the reason your cartridge isn't working is because the ink is has clogged up, try holding that part of it under hot water for a few seconds and then wiping it dry with a paper towel. That has worked for me.

Frank, what's the expiration date on the cartridge??

Frank, what's the expiration date on the cartridge??
I've never paid attention before to the expiration date. But since you asked it made me wonder. So, I pulled it out and looked. The date is April of 2008. So maybe I'll run into the same thing when that time comes. I don't remember how long I've had the cartridge, but it's been quite a while. I had to buy a color cartridge (No.22 cartridge) today. It ran dry yesterday after I refilled it once. I refilled it again, but the print was very poor. That's the reason I bought one today. I just looked at the expiration date on that one and it's Sept. of 2009. I just now looked at the date of the one I had to replace and the date was Jan. 2009.

It appears that you'll not have problems with the cartridges refusing to print due to expiration dates. The dates you're getting purchasing new are far enough in the future that it shouldn't be a problem.

What I would suggest is not waiting until a color is depleted or gets a bit sketchy before refilling. I top mine pretty regularly. It is also imperative to print a color page or two every couple of days whether you need one or not! :) Keeping the ink flowing, as you point out, keeps them from drying out...

[QUOTE=Whyzman;374601 I top mine pretty regularly. It is also imperative to print a color page or two every couple of days whether you need one or not! :) Keeping the ink flowing, as you point out, keeps them from drying out...[/QUOTE]
I have my laser printer set as the default printer. It prints black only so I may go for a week or more before I use my InkJet. When I think about it I will print something in color so that things don't dry out. But sometimes I forget. I'm going to make a point of it to print something every couple of days. Another thing, I always wait until the ink has run out before I fill them. But if I'm understanding you right, is it better to fill them before they run dry?
How do you determine when it's time to fill them?

I have my laser printer set as the default printer. It prints black only so I may go for a week or more before I use my InkJet. When I think about it I will print something in color so that things don't dry out. But sometimes I forget. I'm going to make a point of it to print something every couple of days. Another thing, I always wait until the ink has run out before I fill them. But if I'm understanding you right, is it better to fill them before they run dry?
How do you determine when it's time to fill them?

I have my laser printer set as the default printer.
Same here. That's what got me into trouble with my HP d135 inkjet. I wound up replacing one of the print heads...spendy little buggers. Plus a long time wasted trying to get it back working.

Unlike lasers that can sit months between jobs, the injets need to be "reminded" why we have them in our printing arsenal... :)

Another thing, I always wait until the ink has run out before I fill them.
I believe your cartridges have the printheads built into them? If one lets them run dry, it is my understanding that that they will wear prematurely. For those who just throw another new cartridge in, that won't make any difference. For those of us who are refilling...it is indeed important not to let them run dry. The ink, I suspect, is acting like a lubricant...

How do you determine when it's time to fill them?
I don't know that the factory cartridges are completely filled when we get them... I'm guessing perhaps 80-85%. One thought would be to "top them off" when you first get them and watch on the syringe how much you're having to add to a new cart.

Before returning back to work on the orphanage in Mexico I would print up beaucoup photos to bring back for the Mexican workers. Because I was color printing in quantity and using 8 1/2 X 11" photo sheets, I would print around 20 full pages and then recheck the ink levels by topping them off.

I wish I could tell you with certainty "when," but it really has something to do with page count (I believe that's how HPs ink monitoring works). And, with the color quantity. By that I mean how much ink is actually expended printing the page. A full color sunset photo 8 /12 X 11 is going to chew up a lot of ink compared with random colors from a web page.

It doesn't take long to top them off when in doubt, and in the long run it will save headaches...especially, for me with the separate printheads...you don't want them going dry on you! :(