It's happened again.
My XP crashed so far twice in one day after about 2 months of grace.
As a rsult a lot of my files are badly corrupted, again word files and html files.

It gives a screen full of information.
Near to the bottom it says something like:

technical information.
****** stop 0x0000fff
Begining dump of physical memory.

Then it does check on my hard disk.

The first thing I tried was go to start/control panel/system restore ...

However when I click on the system restore I get an error warning message:

The heading of erorr message is:

rstrui.exe
Unable to locate component.
The applicatiom has failed to start because framedyn.dll was not found. Reinstall the application may fix this problem.

So I reinstalled XP.
I was able to activate restore, however it only had the restore point of 5pm today (06-05-02) this was straight after the reinstallation.

I tried restore from MS word help/restore again no luck.

Since my last predicament two months ago, luckily I have been backing everything to floppy, cd-rom, zip disk, basically any back up medium I can find.


I have used a software that I have not used for a long time, JBuilder 6, I think I installed this software around the time I had the first crash. This software can be the culprit??

I will take this software off and see if my computer becomes more stable. I have come to conclusion that I need to do a clean install, which I am not looking foward to since I have loads of software on the computer.

I need to know where my e-mail for outlook express is kept?
Favourites folder for IE?

Hello Dek

Windows 98 keeps the:
1. "Outlook Express" Emails at:
"c:\Windows\Application Data\Identities|{a unique code}\Microsoft\Outlook Express"
Each folder is in a ".dbx" file and all these must be copied for each "Identity". You may be able to tell who's is which from the folder names.
I copy them onto a CD-RW disk in an identical pathway of folders which "let's me know where they came from and therefore where they should be returned to. "DirectCD.exe" lets me use the CD-RW like a floppy.

2. "Outlook Express" "Address Book" files are at:
"c:\Windows\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book".
There is a ".wa~" and a ".wab" file and both must be copied [and returned to restore].

3. "Internet Explorer" "Favourites" are at:
"c:\Windows\Favourites".
Every folder in here should be copied if you wish it saved [and retuned to restore it].

Before returning these copies to their folders make certain the existing copies are erased and the folder's are empty.

4. To save your "Outlook Express" "Email Account Settings":
a. Go to the "Tools" Menu And select "Accounts". [the Internet Accounts Dialogue box opens].
b. Highlight your Email account, click on "Export".
c. Navigate to where you would like to save these settings and click "Save".
d. This information is saved in a file with the ".iaf" file extension.
e. Write down your ISP password and note their phone number and your account name.
f. To find the "Account Name", highlight your account and click "Properties", click on the tab marked "Servers" to see your account name under the "Incoming Mail Server" subheading.
g. To find the "Phone Number" go to "My Computer>Dial-Up-Networking", right-click on your ISP account and click "Properties" and you will find it in the "General" tab under "Phone Number".

5. To save your ISP's "Dial-Up Networking" settings:
a. Open "My Computer" then "Dial-Up Networking" and "Drag and Drop" your ISP icon to where you want them saved.
b. You simply "Drag and Drop" them back to restore them.

In XP Pro, not sure about Home, your emails are in


C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Local Settings\Application Data\Identities\{43114C8A-30A9-4363-8F08-0926E2BF9E96}\Microsoft\Outlook Express

You will have to either A: type it all into the address bar in Windows Explorer, or B: turn of hide hidden files and folders to see the directories properly, as Local Settings is hidden

Sylvander : First, thanks. Will be transferring files to new puter soon, and had forgotten where to find email.

Dek : We need someone familar with XP to check in on this because I thought that was/is the whole point of Restore..to be able to say, "oops, nevermind..put it back the way it was" and it sounds like yours is NOT working properly. There's no possibility of a virus, right? I installed a Corel program once that corrupted six System files and prevented my PaintShopPro from initiating..!!!..but 98 didn't crash. I replaced the System files, and PSP tech walked me through fix on that part..and all went back to normal.

Sylvander suggestion was for 98 can someone give me the same steps for XP???

I have copied favourites folder this was stored in different location to the one suggested.

For the mails I have done a search for the file extensions

*.dbx - no files found
*wab.exe - file found
*.wa~ - no file found

I copied the wab.exe which is the address book.
Took to another computer but no contacts show.
Please help?

I want to copy my diary from Outlook express.
I want to copy my e-mail.
I have put mails in separate folders that are meaningful to me.

Diary in OE !? Sounds like Outlook and not Outlook Express and which might explain the empty .wab file. Can you confirm? I know nothing about WinXP though.

If you are using Outlook your info is usually (unless you are using Exchange Server) stored in an Outlook.pst file. Kay's virus warning is worth heeding and I would certainly do a full a/v scan.
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Take nice care of yourselves - Paul
"Those who say they don't let little things annoy them have never tried to sleep in a room with a buzzing mosquito."

[This message has been edited by Paul Komski (edited 06-08-2002).]

not diary I meant address book and my mails that I have gathered in seperate folders.

Dek

The OE files should be where locksmiff indicated

when you search for them are you searching hidden folders also?

If not do this...when you click search then click the little arrows to the right of More advanced options and put a check in the boxes for
Search hidden files and folders
Search subfolders
then do your search

you should be able to copy them from there...when you get it all sorted out they will have to go back in the same places for them to work with OE again

buck

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just hav'n fun

Two things: One, sometimes for some who knows? reason, the Address Book won't "import" and we have had to "email" the addresses to ourselves. Open the Address Book, copy/paste entire list, and email it to be picked up by other puter. If you have a online email separate from "home" addy, you could store it there. Secondly, I discovered recently that I couldn't go into Explorer and save emails onto floppy and stick in new puter because the file extensions are different for IE 5 and IE 5.5...so will need to email those to myself too. Shouldn't be a problem for you once you actually find your email, but thought I would mention it for others reading this post.

Getting stuff saved is good, but I trust you have/or are gonna post on actual problem? Do you have a good virus checker? Did you remove that software you mentioned above? And, if so, does it seem more "stable" now?

Regarding copying outlook express mail.
On my computer I have done seach for hidden files found the *dbx files.
Found the mail as suggested by the experts.
At:
C:\Documents and Settings\comet\Application Data\Identities\{D4A8C166-F9E6-11D3-97B6-444553540000}\Microsoft\Outlook Express

I have copied on of this OE icons for example Inbox.dbx this is only 59Kb???? Took to another computer and clicked on the icon then OE express opens on this other computer but I cannot see the mails.

For example in my inbox I have these folders:

Inbox\employment\<<3 different folders>\all packed with email
Inbox\btmail\8 mails inside this folder
Inbox\friends\work\loads of mail here
Inbox\friends\Uni\loads of mail here
Inbox\kaplan\...
Inbox\newsgroup\java\loads of mail here, important ones.
Inbox\newsgroup\pcguide\<mail here>
...
...


I want to copy these mail. I know that 56kb is far to less for the amount of mail I have.

In my search also came up with this address location:

C:\Documents and Settings\comet\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook Express

Here I copied one of the icons for test purposes again
Employment.dbx (200kb)
But again when I took to spare computer the folders/email does not show.

What can I do????

Regarding copying outlook express mail.
On my computer I have done seach for hidden files found the *dbx files.
Found the mail as suggested by the experts.
At:
C:\Documents and Settings\comet\Application Data\Identities\{D4A8C166-F9E6-11D3-97B6-444553540000}\Microsoft\Outlook Express

I have copied one of the OE icons for test purposes first. For example Inbox.dbx this is only 59Kb???? Took to another computer and clicked on the icon then OE express opens but I cannot see the folder/mail.

For example in my inbox I have these folders:

Inbox\employment\<3 different folders>\all packed with email
Inbox\btmail\8 mails inside this folder
Inbox\friends\work\loads of mail here
Inbox\friends\Uni\loads of mail here
Inbox\kaplan\...
Inbox\newsgroup\java\loads of mail here, important ones.
Inbox\newsgroup\pcguide\<mail here>
...
...


I want to copy these mail. I know that 56kb is far to less for the amount of mail I have.

In my search also came up with this address location:

C:\Documents and Settings\comet\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook Express

Here I copied one of the icons for test purposes again
Employment.dbx (200kb)
But again when I took to spare computer the folders/email does not show.

What can I do????

It seems that you have created sub-folders "within" your inbox. Each of these subfolders is not actually contained within the Inbox.dbx file but are saved instead as other individual .dbx files with their own specific names. They only appear in the Directory-tree of OE because that is how OE has "organised" them. You need to find these .dbx folders to get to the mails/messages saved within them.


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Take nice care of yourselves - Paul
"Those who say they don't let little things annoy them have never tried to sleep in a room with a buzzing mosquito."

Regarding copying of address book.
Did search located 3 files at this location:

C:\Documents and Settings\comet\Application Data\Microsoft\Address Book

Copied the files, file sizes are:

comet.w~b 192 kb (only)
comet.wa~ 196kb (only)
comet.wab 203kb (This is the address book)

As suggested by the experts I copied both .wab and .wa~ files.
When I click on the comet.wab on the spare computer I get message

"The specified file does not appear to be valid address book file"

Sorry, this is not a techie way to do it, but couldn't you just email the stuff to yourself..and then pick up the email on the other puter you're trying to get stuff to? I have noticed that sometimes when I copy/paste email messages with links in them that the links no longer work, but can "forward" those from my Hotmail box to myself and the links will work. That is the way I will have to do it since OE 5 and OE 5.5 have different file extensions for email files...fortunately the Address "wab" is the same and went over to other puter via floppy.

Is it possible to copy mail over 100 perhaps that are sorted in different folders without needing to email to myself at a different computer???????

Okay, this would be just as tedious as emailing them, but you could "open" each email, under File, click Save As..then save to a folder on your HDD, then copy onto floppy. Not sure about getting those "back into" OE, though. I just tried "Import" and "Messages"..but got a Wizard thing with no options to import from a folder on the HDD. The one I saved is an eml extension, which (I think) should be easily read by other puter in terms of opening it, so you could store the messages and open if needed.

This isn't helpful, but just noticed if one right clicks on an email, you get the "forward as attachment" option so if you can't find another way, maybe you could attach a "batch" at a time.

Excess my lack of jargon.
You keep refering to a puter,
What is it?

Short for com-puter

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PUSH TO TEST. RELEASE TO DETONATE.
[Closed captioned for the thinking impaired.]

Can some on heed my question?

Is it possible to copy emails(over 200 mails in different folders)/address book(not as important) from OE like one would copy a word documentation from one application to another?

If so then I can spend however many days and weeks trying to do this.
Otherwise I will need to find an alternative like posting the email to myself.

It is possible (once you are sure you have found and identified the "Outlook Express" StoreFolder that contains your eMail messages - themselves saved within the .dbx files contained inside that OE StoreFolder) to copy the WHOLE folder and then save that copy anywhere you like for future backup needs.

If OE6 is like the earlier versions, you can go to Tools<>Options<>Maintenance and you will see a Button marked "Store Folder". Once OE has been installed, clicking on this button will give you the path to where its current OE StoreFolder is located.

It is possible to change the location of that folder to anywhere you like using the "change location" facility. Additionally; if you change this location to one that is already another OE StoreFolder it will merge the contents of the new folder with the one you have now pointed-it to. So after a clean reinstall, you could copy your old backup folder to a position of your choice (but NOT overwriting the newly created OE folder) and then go into OE and change the location to that of your backup. Having done that you could move it wherever you like. This will only work (I think) if both folders have been created with the same version of OE.

A concrete example of how this can be used from when I recently learned to create multiple partitions and a dual boot. Installed WinME on C: Win2K on D: copied my backup OEfolder to E: Then pointed both of the new OutlookExpresses created on C: and D: to my old backup folder, now on E: Result:- two newly installed OSes both having their installation of OE synchronised AND containing all my original eMail messages.

A final note. If any dbx files ever become "corrupted" there is a utility called DBXTRACT that can generally recover most or all of the eMails from corrupted dbx files. Since it is obvious that these eMails are very importaqnt to you I would advise making a backup copy of your current OE folder and then play around with the StoreFolder Option before you format and reinstall, so that you are completely happy with the way it works.

PS Kay had some problems using the File<>Import option (and I think I have had some too in the past) but it should be possible to use this to import the messages from your backup copy, whether on CD, Floppy or HD. I think for this to succede you must, once again, use what was a complete original OE StoreFolder.

[This message has been edited by Paul Komski (edited 06-11-2002).]

Thanks, Paul ...I had never even noticed that StoreFolder option before. Unfortunately, in my case, I am running into different versions of OE because 5.5 accidentally got installed on new puter with the ISP connection gizmo. Beloved updated 5.5 like mad to make up for boo boo, so I will try and learn to like 5.5. (It shouldn't be that much different from 5, but some of us are stubborn and set in ways.) In any case, I appreciate the info..will help "backup" important stuff.

Actually Kay, after most of the updates to 5.5, the thing I found is that it seems a little more stable than 5, not much different otherwise. 6 on the other hand...... http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Celts are the men that heaven made mad, For all their battles are merry and their songs are all sad.

I have copied the whole folder as suggested by Paul onto blank zip disk from:

Tools/options/maintenance/storefolder <<button>>
C:\Documents and Settings\comet\Application Data\Microsoft\Outlook Express

The OS is WinXP and OE version 6.
The other puter is OS 98 OE version 5. Firstly tried the most intutive though I clicked on one of the *.dbx files OE opens but cannot see mail. So thus tried the other alternative of using the menu commands file/import/...

Both OE version 6 and 5 has:
file/import/<5 options>
file/import/Address book
file/import/Other address book
file/import/messages
file/import/mail account settings
file/import/new acccount settings

I clicked on the 3rd option "messages"
Was expecting an "open file dialog" as you find in less esoteric SW like OE (compared to "Outloook") but to my dilemma it was an dialog giving me option:
"Select an email program to import from".

What shall I do?

I think you may have a problem trying to import a later version 6 into an earlier version 5, since the earlier version can have no knowledge of the later version. What you would like to see would be import messages from eMail Program = "Outlook Express 6". You could try and see if it would import OK if you chose "Outlook Express 5" - but I would have my doubts. Having chosen the eMail program you would then get a dialog box asking to browse to the location of the StoreFolder (eg your imported backup folder).

If you store your backup on the other PC with a different OS and a different installed version of OE you may also have problems if you try to "merge" the OE5 version with the imported backup of 6 by pointing the StoreFolder to the backup. All you can do is try and see what happens. Or better still see if you can get it to work on another PC running XP.

Opening a .dbx file directly may open OE if the file association of .dbx makes it do this - but it is not the normal way to open OE and .dbx is not even listed on my list of associated file types. Also if the StoreFolder has not been "integrated" with OE by importing or changing location of store folder then I would not expect it to function properly. The StoreFolder does not only contain eMail folders; other files in it are "system" files that make OE integrate with it and work properly.

Kay Importing/exporting etc between OE5.0 and 5.5 should not cause any conflicts as both are basically OE version 5.x

[This message has been edited by Paul Komski (edited 06-12-2002).]

Thanks, mjc..needed a little reassurance. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif We still haven't tried video card number two in new puter..so it's still sitting idle while beloved building garage addition to store "parts" in..lol..in his "spare" time.

And yeah, Paul, I thought of that later too. Should be able to do that, but doubt if will fool with it cuz I don't really have that many things that need to go "over". Clean out my OE regularly..so only a few in Inbox and Sent. The very long Draft message I run for links I am watching here, and links to check out..I can just email to myself easier than trying to export/import.

Dek: I think the only thing that you're actually going to be able to do is "save" them as Paul suggested and hope they go back into XP once you work out the XP problem. I have never been able to get a "later version" file format to read in an earlier version program..have tried it with "doc" files that wouldn't open in Works, or WordPad, and my husband has a later version of PaperPort whose files I can't read with my scanner PaperPort. I know it would be a major chore, but if this stuff is important to you, I would recommend either emailing it all, or copying/pasting to something like WordPad that 98 definitely can read. If things are important to one, one should "save" them off computer anyway..don't you think? Just in case the computer goes belly up some morning? It is tedious enough to have to reconfigure things on a new build, or hard drive, or whatever without losing all one's important stuff.

There is one other option that "might" work. On the PC that you wish to use your backup "Outlook Express" Folder you could find the current folder in-use and rename it "Outlook ExpressOld" and then paste a copy of your backup "Outlook Express" into the "Microsoft" mother folder. Then just open OE and see if it works. If it does you know your files are safe. So delete it from the "Microsoft" Folder and rename the "Outlook ExpressOld" folder back to "Outlook Express". If it doesn't work I'm afraid you are none the wiser.

You should still also be able to use
DBXtract (http://chattanooga.net/~scochran/DBXtract.htm) to recover your eMails if they are still there, since even though it seems designed for OE5 it is stated to work in XP (and thus in OE6 "by definition").

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Take nice care of yourselves - Paul
"Those who say they don't let little things annoy them have never tried to sleep in a room with a buzzing mosquito."

Many thanks.
I have managed to get the other puter to read the mail, I needed to up grade the mail reader from 5 to 6.

For the mail I have copied the folder as Suggested by Paul:
Tools/options/maintenance/storefolder <<button>>

I have not been able to do the same for the address book.
I have looked in the dialog as suggested by Paul for example maintenance to see where IE6 stores diary it but I couldn't find it.

Shall I do a search on those extensions as suggested to me before and copy the whole folder and use IE6 puter1 to IE6 puter2?

I don't know what the "diary" is that you're talking about, so can't help with that. But, did you try to Export the Address Book..maybe a couple of times? You open the Address Book in OE, under the File menu, click on Export, and dialog opens as to where you want to put it. I save mine (whenever I make changes) to floppy, and I recently opened the Address Book on the new puter (with OE 5.5..not the OE 5 I have on this one) and successfully "Imported" it. Have done it before..but occasionally have ran into snags, so either try to Import again, or save another "Export" copy and try that. I couldn't get the Import function in IE to work on my Favorites folder, so had to go to Windows Explorer, open the Favorites folder there, and just copy/paste all my links over from the Favorites folder I have saved on floppy. That seems to be working fine.

There was some Diary/AddressBook confusion earlier in this thread. Dek has had a slip of the tongue again. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif There is a proper Diary with Dates etc in Outlook. The WindowsAddressBook files *.wab are stored in an Address Book Folder, itself in a Microsoft folder in various places on your HDD but commonly in Windows<>ApplicationData. Other versions may be found if more than one user is setup on the pc.

The *.wab file contains "shared folders" and "folders for each identity" setup in OE. When you are using OE you can only see the shared entries and the entries for the identity you are currently using. However if you open the AddressBook file DIRECTLY by double clicking on it you can see all the entries even if OE is not in use. This has always seemed an odd way to provide privacy for a particular identity's own contacts.

As with the OutlookExpress Folder, for backup purposes, one can save the whole AddressBook Folder and get its contents back later by hook or by crook. If it won't export normally it is possible to export it as a text file (comma separated values) and these (since they are generic) should be capable of being imported with no problems into a new AddressBook or indeed any other "DatabaseTable/Spreadsheet", which is what the AddressBook essentially is.