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kckvendetta
12-28-2006, 01:36 AM
So i just got the Saitek GM3200 and I have two problems with it, if anyone can please help me with these problems please do =):

1. Well, to start off I play Counter-Strike 1.6, and using this mouse on the 1800, 2400, 3200 dpi option it has a tendency to lag up. I point to a specific spot and I see the mouse follow up slowly behind it. Not terribly slow but obviously slowly. I was wondering if there was some way to fix that.

2. The second major problem is either my mouse pad or the mouse. Even on the 800 dpi option it has a tendecy to like stutter move if I move it to fast. So if i wanted to move my mouse quite quickly it sort of starts in the direction then gets off place. I have a 4d steelpad mousepad. Does anyone have any suggestions to help fix this? I'm seriosuly stumped with the problems and not sure if its the comp, mouse, or mousepad. Thank You.

Akarliko
07-09-2007, 08:41 PM
I have exactly the same problem!

I previously have had a Copperhead installed, and a Habu, neither of which had this 'lag' problem on counter strike 1.6 .

I have tried completely uninstalling the mouse drivers and software, updating them etc etc.

On the desktop it would be fine, fire up 1.6 and laaaaaag.

Exactly as the poster above me.......

I am yet to find a solution.... :(

( i have an amd64 4000 san diego cpu, with 2 gig corsair xms mem and am running win xp pro 32bit....)

Sylvander
07-10-2007, 06:15 AM
32-bit mouse drivers (http://www.saitekforum.com/showthread.php?p=54261) needed?
See "GM3200 Laser Mouse 32-bit drivers" on that page.

16-bit drivers use a communal message queue, so are affected by how other 16-bit progs are running.
32-bit drivers/progs run in their own protected memory space and message queue, so should be unaffected by what's happening with other programs.

Akarliko
07-10-2007, 02:23 PM
I tried the beta driver, the same problem still exists for me.

I will most likely have to take the mouse back, in fact i wouldnt be surprised if ANYONE buying this mouse finds the same problem on cs.

Sylvander
07-10-2007, 02:49 PM
Which Windows version?

If you're running 32-bit mouse drivers and still experiencing stutter/lag perhaps you should use [something like] Process Explorer for Windows (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/ProcessesAndThreads/ProcessExplorer.mspx) to see if any process is maxing %CPU usage so as to cause a delay in mouse cursor location info being dealt with by the processor.

Akarliko
07-10-2007, 04:06 PM
I am using xp pro 32 bit.

I understand what your sayig about cpu usage, however if the cpu usage was maxed it would effect all aspects of the game, not just the mouse lag movement.

I can run move jump shoot at maximum fps, throw smoke, have winamp running in the back ground streaming from the net, it make no difference.

Its frustrating, i wonder if its something to do with mouse acceleration..?

Either way, i should be able to use the mouse with acceleration...

Sylvander
07-10-2007, 04:46 PM
"if the cpu usage was maxed it would effect all aspects of the game, not just the mouse lag movement"
I believe that may not necessarily be true; it would depend....
e.g. The mouse [driver] uses an IRQ. I believe IRQ's can be given high or low priority at the CPU. So devices given low priority IRQ's must wait until the devices with high priority IRQ's have been given their turn at the processor.
Here's what my Win2000Pro help files say about...

Priority of Running Applications
To allocate system resources for an MS-DOS-based program and change its idle time

Open My Computer.
Locate the MS-DOS-based program (.exe) file, or the program information file or shortcut you want to change. Please refer to the documentation that came with the program for the actual file name.
Right-click the icon, and then click Properties.
In Properties, click the Misc tab.
Adjust the Idle sensitivity slider as follows:
To give a background program more resources, move the slider toward Low.
To give a background program fewer resources, move the slider toward High.

Notes
You may specify how long an MS-DOS-based program will remain idle before reducing its computer resource allocation so that other programs can use the resources.
This option may not be available in some MS-DOS-based programs.
Creating a program information file (PIF) for an MS-DOS-based program creates a shortcut to the program executable. All the settings saved in the PIF file are contained in the shortcut.

You might also want to check the configuration settings for your mouse.
See below a screenshot of my own mouse "Device Manager->mouse->Advanced Settings->Input Buffer Length".
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