Hello Gang, I have a Lite-On DVD+RW SHOW-822S installed in my computer and just recently has been experiencing some problems burning a data disk. It appears the drive can read the disks but when I try to make a data disk via Nero the disk returns an error in the middle of the burning process. I can hear the drive and it seems like it “stalls” and keeps spinning. I tried the drag and drop option for Windows XP and that too also failed.

To help fix the errors I have tried updating the drivers, re-seating the cables and even un-installing the DVD drive from the device manager still with no avail. I have tried to update the drives firmware but it involves burning an image, which I obviously can’t do.

Is there a diagnostic I can run or anything else someone might suggest to alleviate my problem, or is this drive finally coming to the end? I have had it for 2-3 years and use it frequently. If this is the case can anyone suggest a good drive, would I need a specific one for my MOBO or will anyone do.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-Z

What is the reason that Nero gives for the failed burn?

Usually the process just stalls at a certain percent at which time I have to stop the burning and restart the computer in order for the disc to come out. However when the Nero process does come to a complete or when I use the windows drag and drop method it just says that a error occurred with the drive.

Use the FREE ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/) to burn an ISO file to a [previously erased] re-writable optical disk.
ImgBurn will warn you if you are attempting to write to the wrong type of disk [CD versus DVD].
The ISO file will be intended for [be of a type for] a particular type of disk.

Watch the 3 progress bars during the burn.
The 2 bottom progress bars will show you what is happening with the internal HDD buffer and the optical drives' internal buffer.
They should both hover constantly/consistently around 95% full.
As the last of the burn completes, the buffers will gradually empty.

How those behave will depend upon...
(a) The capability [speed] of your PC components [CPU, HDD].

(b) The burning speed capability of the optical drive, and the speed of the optical disk, and the size of the internal buffer.

Don't set the ImgBurn burning speed too fast for burning speed capability of the disk and/or drive.
Think of it as a flow of data from a source [HDD? needs to be fast supply speed], to a destination [optical disk, should not be set too fast (or using high speed disks) and therefore be making great speed demands], perhaps via the processor [if using PIO], or via DMA.

Use the FREE ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/) to burn an ISO file to a [previously erased] re-writable optical disk.
ImgBurn will warn you if you are attempting to write to the wrong type of disk [CD versus DVD].
The ISO file will be intended for [be of a type for] a particular type of disk.

Watch the 3 progress bars during the burn.
The 2 bottom progress bars will show you what is happening with the internal HDD buffer and the optical drives' internal buffer.
They should both hover constantly/consistently around 95% full.
As the last of the burn completes, the buffers will gradually empty.

How those behave will depend upon...
(a) The capability [speed] of your PC components [CPU, HDD].

(b) The burning speed capability of the optical drive, and the speed of the optical disk, and the size of the internal buffer.

Don't set the ImgBurn burning speed too fast for burning speed capability of the disk and/or drive.
Think of it as a flow of data from a source [HDD? needs to be fast supply speed], to a destination [optical disk, should not be set too fast (or using high speed disks) and therefore be making great speed demands], perhaps via the processor [if using PIO], or via DMA.

I am not sure how this could help me considering I can't burn an image file, as my drive is not working or at least won't burn. Will this give me an error message that I then can run a diagnostic tool to fix, if not I am lost as what this would do other than explaining what I already know.

Maybe I am missing something, if so please enlighten me. Also, any other ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

--Z

1. "not sure how this could help me considering I can't burn an image file"
But you said...
"Usually the process just stalls at a certain percent at which time I have to stop the burning"
So if I were in this situation, I'd want to run ImgBurn and watch those bottom 2 progress bars and see what they are doing leading up to the point at which "the process stalls".
If the buffers are [or are not] being kept fully stocked with data, then...
That might lead to a conclusion, and a possible cause to investigate.
I gave up using Nero, because it didn't give as much info about the technical aspects during a burn as did DVD Flick & ImgBurn.


2. "Will this give me an error message"
It may do...
Suck it and see.
I know in the recent past when I've used "DVD Flick" and its integrated copy of "ImgBurn" [2 good prog's] the programs have given warnings [when I'm attempting to use the wrong type of disk for example].

1. "not sure how this could help me considering I can't burn an image file"
But you said...
"Usually the process just stalls at a certain percent at which time I have to stop the burning"
So if I were in this situation, I'd want to run ImgBurn and watch those bottom 2 progress bars and see what they are doing leading up to the point at which "the process stalls".
If the buffers are [or are not] being kept fully stocked with data, then...
That might lead to a conclusion, and a possible cause to investigate.
I gave up using Nero, because it didn't give as much info about the technical aspects during a burn as did DVD Flick & ImgBurn.


2. "Will this give me an error message"
It may do...
Suck it and see.
I know in the recent past when I've used "DVD Flick" and its integrated copy of "ImgBurn" [2 good prog's] the programs have given warnings [when I'm attempting to use the wrong type of disk for example].


I tried to complete a burn with imgburn but instead got an I/O Error, failed to read sector
logical block address out of range
failed to verify sectors

If anyone has help with that it would be appreciated, if not then it appears I will be needing a new drive and some recommendations would be appreciated.

--Z

Find HERE (http://www.cdr-zone.com/articles/atapi_error_codes_page_1.html) logical block address out of range , and tips at bottom of the page.
QUOTE
"These errors are difficult to specify a cause for. Most of the times the problem is in the system."

Lots of examples of this out on the web.
Some say it's a problem with poor media [use good quality slower speed media].
One fix obtained by by a Firmware Update.
Use "ImgBurn->Tools->Drive->Check for firmware updates...".

After attempt and failure to burn use "IngBurn->File->Display graph data using DVDInfoPro..." [I've not yet used this]

Try also "ImgBurn->View->Log".

Find HERE (http://www.cdr-zone.com/articles/atapi_error_codes_page_1.html) logical block address out of range , and tips at bottom of the page.
QUOTE
"These errors are difficult to specify a cause for. Most of the times the problem is in the system."

Lots of examples of this out on the web.
Some say it's a problem with poor media [use good quality slower speed media].
One fix obtained by by a Firmware Update.
Use "ImgBurn->Tools->Drive->Check for firmware updates...".

After attempt and failure to burn use "IngBurn->File->Display graph data using DVDInfoPro..." [I've not yet used this]

Try also "ImgBurn->View->Log".

I will certainly check that out nad report back IF I find out anything else. Thanks.

Find HERE (http://www.cdr-zone.com/articles/atapi_error_codes_page_1.html) logical block address out of range , and tips at bottom of the page.
QUOTE
"These errors are difficult to specify a cause for. Most of the times the problem is in the system."

Lots of examples of this out on the web.
Some say it's a problem with poor media [use good quality slower speed media].
One fix obtained by by a Firmware Update.
Use "ImgBurn->Tools->Drive->Check for firmware updates...".

After attempt and failure to burn use "IngBurn->File->Display graph data using DVDInfoPro..." [I've not yet used this]

Try also "ImgBurn->View->Log".
Well, I updated the firmware, fixed the DMA and tried burning at a slower speed and still came up with the same error. IT appears the drive is close to failure... If this is the case can anyone recommend a good replacement drive?

Or any other suggestions to try to revive this one, however it may be just a matter of time.

"can anyone recommend a good replacement drive?"
I recently bought and am using a Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-112D (http://www.silicon-group.co.uk/product.asp?cat=Drives&subcat=DVD%20writers%20-%20IDE&prodID=4163).
It wasn't expensive; is quiet and fast; is very reliable; just works. :D :cool:

I like Lite-on or BenQ drives myself.

I like Lite-on or BenQ drives myself.

I recently bought and am using a Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-112D.
It wasn't expensive; is quiet and fast; is very reliable; just works.

I will check both of those out, Thanks so much for the recommendations.