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Hewy
11-30-2000, 11:15 PM
I'm getting a new system very soon and was wondering if I should stick with Win 98 SE or try Win ME? I've been hearing mixed reviews about ME and about how it hogs resources and slows down games and stuff. Anyone out there with first hand experience using the 2 OS's. Will it crash my system alot or incompatability problems? If you have a link to goto that will answer my questions would be great. If not, I got the time to wait while someone types an answer http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Thanks

scada
12-01-2000, 07:01 PM
IMHO Windows ME is not that great an improvement over 98.
I've installed it on my system at home and right away could not play a few of my favorite games. I still can't keep Media player seven(installed with ME) from locking up my system and 3d Studio Max doesn't like it at all.

Partition magic and a few other utilities won't even install on it.

Good for me that most of the stuff that didn't run on ME runs just fine on good old NT.

Of course you may have better luck.

[This message has been edited by scada (edited 12-01-2000).]

tllraider
12-02-2000, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by Hewy:
I'm getting a new system very soon and was wondering if I should stick with Win 98 SE or try Win ME? I've been hearing mixed reviews about ME and about how it hogs resources and slows down games and stuff. Anyone out there with first hand experience using the 2 OS's. Will it crash my system alot or incompatability problems? If you have a link to goto that will answer my questions would be great. If not, I got the time to wait while someone types an answer http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Thanks

I just bought a new system with the os ME and hog the resources it does, it crashes all the time I even installed an extra 128 and it still is always low in resources I had a packard bell before this and I am regreting bying this hp. not only that when it does freeze up I have no other recourse than to reboot because the alt control delete doesn't work (see my other post) hope this helps.

Reid
12-02-2000, 09:34 PM
I should have known better, but I bought the $49 ME "upgrade" mainly out of curiosity, so I could see for myself what it is like.

IE5.5 crashes frequently, ME prevents my Casio software from communicating with the IR port, and the Windows Imaging Acquisition doesn't work with my Casio QV-770 even though it is a "supported" device.

The only new feature I appreciated was thumbnails in Explorer.

The System Restore sounds good, but I depend on Ghost partition backups instead. I switched back to Windows 98SE while I wait for a service pack, but the people at Microsoft have their hands full now. I can also understand other vendors not being happy about writing new drivers so that their devices will work with ME.

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Paleo Pete
12-03-2000, 07:36 AM
Thumbnails in Explorer? If you're referring to Windows Explorer, win 98 has that, I look at thumbnails every day...Go to View and click as Web Page ...you should then have thumbnails.

I'll agree with what's been posted already, it seems Micro$oft hasn't worked out all the bugs in ME yet, I'd stay with win98 till they do, which might take about a year...

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Reid
12-03-2000, 01:18 PM
Pete,

Thanks for letting me know what should have been obvious. So now I have nothing to like about Windows ME http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif



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Paleo Pete
12-04-2000, 08:04 AM
You're welcome Reid.

I only found out because I was curious, which in this case got me thumbnail view...in another case it resulted in taking 3 hours to reinstall Windows, and 4 days to reinstall and test all the software one item at a time...curiosity is definitely a two edged sword...

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Reid
12-04-2000, 02:28 PM
Pete,

Regarding thumbnails, Windows ME can show a full page of thumbnails in Explorer, but Windows 98 only shows the single one I have selected. Am I still missing something? http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Paleo Pete
12-04-2000, 03:35 PM
OK, maybe ME has a different thumbnail option that I don't know about. All I have is the one thumbnail corresponding to the selected picture, same as you, so I don't think you're missing anything...It shows up between the left and right panes in Windows Explorer, in Web View.

I can get a page full if I use iPhoto or another picture viewer, but that's a different story. It's also why a thumbnail option of that sort in ME woudn't interest me much, when I need it, I already have it soon as I install my scanner...If I could get the thing to work in ME...

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the diff
12-06-2000, 12:02 AM
I'm curious to learn more. Can someone provide 2-3 excellant sites that give an objective, detailed, review (good and bad)about ME, plus other Operating Systems?

Thanks!

Paleo Pete
12-07-2000, 07:45 AM
OS Comparisons (http://astro.temple.edu/~jjouthe/Comparison.html)

Comparisons (http://www.unm.edu/cirt/systems/win.html)

Can't find much more, not many actual comparisons out there...took some digging to find these...try a search engine, maybe dogpile can find more...

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Ed
12-09-2000, 12:30 PM
I have been going through a great deal of pain with a hardware vendor trying to get order problems resolved (but that's another tale). I originally had a 750MHZ with Windows 98. To replace this they sent me a new system - did not have the 750MHZ or Windows 98 any longer so I got a 900MHZ with Windows ME... all other things were equal. I thought this was great... BUT!
> Under Windows ME I had some software that did not function the same.
> I had the system fail more often
> The side by side performance of ME on a faster box was worst...
===> Test & time - 750mhz / Win98 ..vs.. 900mhz / Win ME
==> Booting up -
=======> 1 min 12 sec ..vs.. 2 min 5 sec
==> Load prog (Just started aol, up to signon window prompt)
=======> 7 sec ..vs.. 9 sec
==> Virus Scan - 41,335 files ..vs.. 37,761 files
=======> 6 min 25 sec ..vs.. 10 min 6 sec
==> WinZip - 1007 MP3 files (same contents for both)
=======> 45 sec ..vs.. 1 min 30 sec

Bottom line: I changed computer platforms and key to the new choice was a vendor that would still give me a system with Windows 98!


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BigBlue66
12-09-2000, 01:38 PM
Hey,

I have never heard anything good about ME. Ha Ha Ha Ha No, seriously, when considering whether to go with 98SE or ME, I choose to stick with 98SE until ME has its stuff together.

Cheers,

BB66

will729
12-09-2000, 09:15 PM
I have had ME for a week and haven't had any problems, it's actually much more stable then my old PC which had 98 on it, og course a week isn't really a long time

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[This message has been edited by will729 (edited 4-3-1900 in a small wood cabin in texas).]

rbi
12-10-2000, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by scada:
IMHO Windows ME is not that great an improvement over 98.
I've installed it on my system at home and right away could not play a few of my favorite games. I still can't keep Media player seven(installed with ME) from locking up my system and 3d Studio Max doesn't like it at all.

Partition magic and a few other utilities won't even install on it.

Good for me that most of the stuff that didn't run on ME runs just fine on good old NT.

Of course you may have better luck.

[This message has been edited by scada (edited 12-01-2000).]

mjc
12-18-2000, 02:58 AM
The Big question for me seems to be whether or not you want to allow someone who has no idea of what exactly you want your computer to do dictate how often system maintenance gets done, how much space to reserve on you hard drive to "protect" your OS, etc. Win Me seems to have so much more going on in the background than any other release of Windows it is no wonder it hogs resources.

As to some programs not running under ME did you all know that ME kills the ability to drop to a "true" DOS mode it just "shells" to DOS?

Also most, not all, of the "new" features (some say best) of ME can be had by updating to IE 5.5 SP1, WMP7, DirectX8.

System Restore + Swap File + Everything in the background = SSSLLLOOOWW

They can eat a large hard drive quickly! and go in to have that nice new fast CPU for dessert!

Also adding more RAM is NOT going to help with improving "system resources" if we are talking about things like 'user' and 'gdi', they're a fixed amount of memory allocated by Windows and are holdovers from the "ancient past". Check out the WinMag articles on resource leaks here:winmag.com/columns/explorer/backissu.htm (http://www.winmag.com/columns/explorer/backissu.htm)

It seems to me that any time hardware seems to make major leaps forward (1GHz++ processors) software designers come up with something that will make it crawl. (ME may work well with the new Pentium IV and lots of very fast RAM) But most of us don't have that kind of money to update our hardware to that level so we either have to suffer with a slow machine or an old OS (which of course soon loses the ability to use often updated or the newest software) (Try and find a current tax program that will run under Win3.1)