shutdown problems w/ win98se

[psabi]

been spending a lot of time on M$ KB...

Got a 450 k6-2, 128 ram, 5 GB HD that is basically a former IBM aptiva (acer board with ALI-5 chipset) . Did a complete format and reinstall with the Aptiva recovery discs. Upgraded it to windows second edition, updated windows (via win update) and patched explorer to 5.01 with serv pack 2. Other than office 2k, there's not much else on it. No yahoo, no AOL anything, no winamp or real player, or virus software. Boots clean (nothing in th statup folder, only systray and explorer at boot) with the most updated drivers available for video and sound. No network installed.

The problem:

When I choose "shut down", the system reboots. I have surfed the kmnowledge base, installed the M$ shutdown supplement, have tried every combination of not loading sys.ini, win.ini, autoexec, config.sys and disabling fast shutdown through msconfig. I have checked my "exit sound" to see if the file was corrupt as well (this was suggested by M$) The ONLY way it shuts down like it should is if I boot into safe mode (F5 during start up)- it shuts down no problem. However, when I use msconfig and do a selective start up and choose NOT to load system.ini, config.sys, win.ini, and autoexec, it won't shutdown.

Suggestions?

One other thing that may help - what is the difference between starting up in safe mode (F5) and doing a selective start up and not loading system.ini, autoexec, config.sys, and win.ini?

This is such a "vanilla" system, I can't believe this one ridiculous problem. Unless some can shed light, my next course of action is to do a format/reinstall with a regular win98se disk (not the "aptiva" version).

Thanks

[kayofcircles]

Hi..recognize you, so know you're not a newbie and pretty sure you've already gone through this shutdown troubleshooter (http://www.aumha.org/a/shutdown.htm), but I am posting it just in case. Did you turn off the exit and entrance sounds? Know you said checked it..but did you try turning it off? We spent over a day recently getting a puter to shutdown..got that accomplished, now it won't restart, but we decided that wasn't a big problem. Can always shutdown and then reboot. Don't know the answer to your question, but someone will. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

[YODA74]

I'm sending you to the same place but for w/98se

here (http://www.aumha.org/a/shutdown.htm)well i guess i'm not gee must just take you to home page huh.

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[This message has been edited by YODA74 (edited 09-24-2001).]

[mjc]

Large hammer.........very large hammer.

Did this machine exhibit any of the strange behavioral problems before its recent reincarnation?

The sounds are still active in the selctive boot but aren't in safe mode, if possible try an earlier version of the sound card drivers or disable the use of system sounds.

The "real" 98se disk may not be a bad idea either.

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[psabi]

Yeah MJC, the hammer was a good idea. I was actually thinking of a "special" hammer that my college roommate from queens told me about - a B.F.H. Fixes many things...

After trying everything possible (thanks all for the links; they served as a fine checklist so I could avoid repeating steps) I reformated the drive and did a nice full install with a win98se CD (not the aptiva one). The system works like a charm. It is set and ready to be shipped to my in-laws as a d-lux replacement for the P.O.S. 486 75mhz they have been grasping...

To answer your question, there were never any shutdown problems previous although I used a regular disc for the install and not the recovery CD when it was my primary machine.

Sad that the "aptiva recovery disc" wasn't effective - I was even surprised to see that there were options the recovery CD didn't install that the "regular" disc did (like DMA for the HD, APM, etc.)

KAYOFCIRCLES: Thanks for the "not a newbie endorsement" ! http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Paleo Pete]

I have a B.F.H...fixes lots of things...lawnmowers, weed eaters, noisy cats...a bit rough on the toes now and then though...

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[buck52]

I saw this posted on another site regarding shutdown problems
start/run/regedit
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Shutdown then in the right pane look for "fast reboot" rght click on it and select modify...make sure the value is set to 0

buck

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