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Inquiring
02-09-2001, 02:48 AM
I m troubleshooting a friends desktop PC...its an Intel 133 with WIN95. He attempted to upgrade AOL OS ver 5.0 to AOL OS ver 6.0. Now, he cant launch AOL OS at all instead receiving an error message referring to wininet.dll and shlwapi.dll as being unable to function (my approxinmate words) Can I just replace these (2) dll's with new copies assuming they are damaged or defective? I dont want to reinstall the entire WIN95 OS if I can help it. Also, what do these (2) dll's do?
Thank you.
intricate@rocketmail.com
Ghost_Hacker
02-09-2001, 10:29 AM
This link will show you how to replace system files on a Windows 98 box.
Q185836 (http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q185/8/36.ASP?LN=EN-US&SD=gn&FR=0&qry=Q185836&rnk=1&src=DHCS_MSPSS_gn_SRCH&SPR=DRX)
Both of the files you mentioned are part of the Internet Explorer "package". You might also try uninstalling AOL if possible and then install a new version of IE to replace those files.
Good Luck http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif
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Inquiring
02-09-2001, 01:22 PM
Thanks terrific tool for a WIN 98 box...the friends box however is WIN95 OS and I see that that tool is NOT available under SYSTEM TOOLS..any other way to repair/replace the single daaged system file? I really appreciate your help.
Inquiring
Originally posted by Ghost_Hacker:
This link will show you how to replace system files on a Windows 98 box.
Q185836 (http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q185/8/36.ASP?LN=EN-US&SD=gn&FR=0&qry=Q185836&rnk=1&src=DHCS_MSPSS_gn_SRCH&SPR=DRX)
Both of the files you mentioned are part of the Internet Explorer "package". You might also try uninstalling AOL if possible and then install a new version of IE to replace those files.
Good Luck http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif
Ghost_Hacker
02-09-2001, 02:14 PM
Use a CAB file extractor which you can find on most shareware/freeware sites to extract the files from the Windows 95 installation disk. I would first make a backup of those files (From DOS if need be) before replacing them. Of course with this method you'll have to search the CABS for the file you want.
You might want to give the second method I listed a try before extracting the files from the installation disk. It's possible that there is nothing wrong with them. Instead the problem may lie with DLLs installed or removed by AOL that the other two make calls to.
Hope this helps http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif
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Paleo Pete
02-09-2001, 03:54 PM
As usual, I need a link I don't have handy yet...Check my site posted below, you'll find near the bottom a link to the DLL Archive, where you can download many needed dlls.
The other suggestions by G_H sound good, you might want to consider reinstalling AOL too, that might get the files installed right on the second try.
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Inquiring
02-09-2001, 09:32 PM
Hello..couldnt I just copy the files in question from another install of WIN 95 or WIN 98 onto a floppy and then delete his files in question and then copy the files from the floppy into the WINDOWS/SYSTEM/ directory?
Is that too simple a solution?
I tried uninstalling AOL 6.0 and then re-installing AOL 6.0 and it did not complete the installation. When he clicks on the AOL desktop icon the AOL opening screen appears for about 2 seconds then disappears.
Thank you.
Paleo Pete
02-10-2001, 06:05 AM
To get the files off a win95 or 98 CD you'd have to extract them, since they are compressed into a cab file on the CD.
I think the problem might be an unusual one, AOL installed newer dll files that win95 can't use for some reason. I may be way off base, but I think it might be that the newer files are based on the assumption that win98 will be the primary OS, and the files may not have been thoroughly tested and compatible with win95. It may also be that they are corrupt to begin with, or a glitch in the AOL 6 that gives it problems with win95. AOL 6 may be assuming win98 too...
I'm not really sure, but it sounds like something of that nature that's not a normal issue when the program is installed on a current system. If you manage to replace the dll files with older ones from the win95 CD, which would be best, AOL 6 might not work with them, no way to know but try it.
Unfortunately I have to say you might end up having to reinstall windows to solve the problems, which is not unusual when dealing with AOL uninstalls. If it comes to that, don't even think about AOL 6 again, go for an older version you know works on a win95 machine.
I'm wondering if replacing the registry with a previous copy would make a difference. Any opinions? I'm not positive, if the dll files have been replaced, a registry change might not help, you might still be dealing with the wrong files being there...or corrupt ones...
And was AOL upgraded from a CD or a download?
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Paleo Pete
02-10-2001, 06:32 AM
One other thing I just thought of, check the system requirements for AOL 6, see if it says it should run on a 133. The comment that it comes on for a second or two then shuts down made me think the CPU may be too slow to run it.
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Randy_tx
02-10-2001, 11:17 AM
AOL 6.0 has enough trouble running on a fast new system & I think it is only recommended to be installed on Win98........there are some bad cd's out there too so I've heard (with the 6.0 ver on them)...so Pete's idea to go back to 5.0 is the best medicine....or a different ISP altogether http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
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Inquiring
02-10-2001, 12:25 PM
AOL 6.0 was installed from the complimentary AOL CD.
Inquiring
02-10-2001, 12:28 PM
AOL 6.0 was installed from the complimentary AOL CD.
BigBlue66
02-10-2001, 03:59 PM
I agree with the others. AOL 6.0 is a resource hog, and will probably not run on the P133, Win95 system. Go back to version 5.0, however you can. That is a more stable version, ie. fewer problems.
Cheers,
BB 66
Inquiring
02-10-2001, 07:58 PM
I reinstalled (2) Windows 95 files and the system OS continued to indicate other problem files...I advised re-installing WIN 95 after a re-formatting of the HDD and backing up the files. The creamed/modified files caused by AOL 6.0 did not warrant piecemeal reinstall of files--a fresh new system OS would be the most economical answer IMHO. What do you think?
Also, AOL 6.0 removed the owners ability to 'drag and drop' and copy files.
Thank you.
Paleo Pete
02-11-2001, 08:43 AM
If other system files are popping up with problems, that might be the best way to go. That's often the case with AOL problems. After reinstalling, if you do so, go back to an earlier version of AOL or preferably go with a dependable local ISP. Depending on location the local ISP will be cheaper by at least $5/month, and does not come with installation problems. Or the AOL limitations.
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sea69
02-12-2001, 09:10 AM
hehe that last post by Pete sums up anything that I would say on this matter. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif
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