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bassman
10-19-2001, 10:51 AM
AAAARRRRRRRGGGGGG
I'm pretty sure I will feel stupid when someone points out my mistake here but, I just don't get it. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/frown.gif
Simple home network, one machine is ME other is 98SE, Cat5 crossover cable, all network stuff is fine. Install ICS and I loose ability to get to the internet, even on the machine with the modem. This actualy worked for several hours. I was posting responses here on one machine and looking at suppliers' sites on the other. Chatted with a pal, read some mail, just acting like a normal guy with 2 internet connections http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Got up the next morning and nothing http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/eek.gif
I have checked all configurations and everything I can think of is set correctly but maybe there is something there I am unaware of. I have looked thru MS KB and came up with nothing, I have looked thru some other sites (thanks MJC) and can't find anything that describes my problem.
This is also happening on a clients system that I set up a couple weeks ago so I am getting quite frustrated http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/frown.gif
Again, the problem is, As soon as I install ICS, I loose internet. If I go back to CP>add/remove>Windows setup> communications, and uninstall it, all is well.
Any help is greatly appriciated http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif
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YODA74
10-19-2001, 11:25 AM
I'm sure you know all this just ran across it maybe it might help??
Windows 98 introduced ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) to help accomplish this. Microsoft made ICS even easier with Win98 SE (Second Edition) and Windows Me by adding a wizard to guide users through the setup process.
To share an Internet connection, Win98 or WinMe is needed on the computer that will serve as the host. This host machine will be the only machine connected directly to the Internet. The host will assign a unique IP (Internet Protocol) number to the other computers on the network. The other computers will need a TCP/IP (Transmission Control Protocol/Internet Protocol) driver and a compatible NIC (network interface card).
To share an Internet access point, you’ll also need an account with an ISP (Internet service provider). Some ISPs will only let one user in the network online at a time. Be sure to check with the ISP about such restrictions. You’ll also need browser software, such as Internet Explorer or a Netscape browser and, depending on the setup, phone lines, a wireless network connection, cables, or connection hub.
Before you start the process of sharing the online connection, consider a few things first that can make the process easier to set up and use. First, use the computer with the fastest connection as your host computer. Remember only the host computer is directly connected to the Internet. The other network computers are linked to the Internet through the host computer. Test your network connections and peripheral devices to assure they are working before going through ICS setup, and only install ICS on the host computer.
To install ICS, go to Control Panel by clicking Start, pointing to Settings, and clicking Control Panel. Double-click Add/Remove Programs. In Add/Remove Programs, click the Windows Setup tab. In the Components window, select Communications and then click the Details button. Check the box for Internet Connection Sharing, click OK, and then click Apply. When the Home Networking Wizard appears, click the Next button and follow the prompts.
The wizard makes it easy to establish an access point by helping you choose the Internet connection type, set up the connection options, select the home network adapter, and enable automatic IP addressing. Before you’re finished, the wizard will gather the information it needs for the other computers on the network. You will be prompted to insert a floppy diskette into the floppy drive to record information you will need later to configure the other computers.
Before users start simultaneously surfing the Web, verify that the Internet applications on the rest of the network computers access the Internet through the network rather than an individual connection.
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bassman
10-21-2001, 10:57 AM
Yoda,
Thanks for the response. Yea, I tried all those things. I even tried setting the IPs and Gateway manulely. Still no joy http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/frown.gif
I was hopeing Ghosthacker might materialize http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif and have the perfect answer for me. I think he put in for vacation time and forgot to tell anyone else http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
One thing I did learn (and this may be well known, just not to me), you can reinstall ME over the top of everything and it will leave your stuff in tact and fix a bunch of problems http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Anyway, thanks again. Anyone else got an idea?
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zman99
10-22-2001, 01:17 AM
I have the exact same situation. I never found the right solution. I had 4 computers with the fastest one acting as the "server". This one has 2 nic cards. The cable modem connects to one of the nic cards and the hub uplink connects to the other. The other 3 connect into the hub. This worked for one day then no internet connection on any of them. I double checked everything three times and couldn't get it to work.
I uninstalled ICS and reconfigured thus. Hub uplink into cable modem, all four computers into hub. Works. If I reinstall ICS, internet won't work.
This was a work around that worked for me. Now if I could find the right answer, what I really want to do is network 3 of these computers to share at least one folder or briefcase and the same printer but networking seems to also cause the internet problem. I'll keep watching your post to see if someone has a solution.
Whyzman
10-22-2001, 10:48 PM
Bassman,
This seemed like a pretty good "by the numbers" troubleshooting guide. Might be something here that you missed... http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/eek.gif http://www.dewassoc.com/support/networking/ics_4.htm
I know, sorry I didn't do the hot link.... http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
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Whyzman
10-22-2001, 11:27 PM
Whoa,
Was doing a little homework for ya and came up with this ICS Debug site. This might be interesting because it appears you can compare the successful file against the unsuccessful file. The current ICS Log is ICSLOG.TXT and the file from the previous run of ICS is ICSLOG.OLD...they are simple text files.
http://www.sohointer.net/howto/debug-ics.htm
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bassman
10-23-2001, 10:35 AM
Thanks Whyzman,
That will give me some things to check. Both some very informative pages.
Where do you guys find some of this stuff? I did a search on Google and couldn't find anything that good.Of course I was pressed for time and never got the chance to search deep.
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Whyzman
10-23-2001, 10:44 AM
You are certainly welcome! http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif Hope they help.
Was curious about your mention of the Me reinstall...my O/S also. What did you do to reinstall without bothering your other data...never been there?
Oh, BTW, I just did a Google Search for you using "ICS Troubleshooting" and checked things out.
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