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jes
12-17-2001, 11:15 PM
To me, this is an extremely strange problem. Others may have seen this before. I have three computers: P1, P2 and C1. They are all networked and sharing files and the internet... P2 is the gateway. P1 and C1 are connected to my hub. All run IE6. Neither P1 nor C1 can connect to www.ingdirect.ca (http://www.ingdirect.ca) but P2 can! This is not a one-time problem. All three computers have been rebooted several times. I'm hopeing that there is an alternative solution to reinstalling IE or worse yet...Windows.

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mjc
12-18-2001, 04:14 PM
Just because you don't get answer in one topic doesn't mean you need to start a new one...you now have at least three of the same thing , one last night and two more this afternoon, and this seems alot like your other post...http://www.pcguide.com/ubb/Forum9/HTML/001520.html. It still seems that sharing is not properly setup.

Also since this is a banking site there may be some sort of special configuration needed, or just a cookie.

Which machine was first used to connect?

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Ghost_Hacker
12-18-2001, 07:05 PM
You might also want to post back with the exact error your getting.

And can you open the first page of the site or do you have problems getting to the secured area of that site? As MJC has pointed out you need cookies and java to access the secured area and some web sites need browsers with 128 bit encryption. Posting your errors will give us a clue.

jes
12-18-2001, 07:26 PM
I have tried to connect to this site with all three of the machines. P2 does it but P1 and C1 can't. It seems that the computers that connect to the internet over the LAN can connect to every page but that one.
When I try to connect to ing direct.ca there is no real error message. The browser just loads a blank page.

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"If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer a Rolls Royce today would cost $100, get a million miles to the gallon and explode once a year, killing everyone inside." - Robert Cringely, InfoWorld Columnist

jes
12-18-2001, 07:28 PM
Also, all three of the machines run the same version of IE, none of them are 128 bit.

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"If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer a Rolls Royce today would cost $100, get a million miles to the gallon and explode once a year, killing everyone inside." - Robert Cringely, InfoWorld Columnist

jes
12-18-2001, 08:01 PM
C1 would have been used to connect to the site the first time. I can't get into any part of the page. I just type in the URL and get a blank page.

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"If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer a Rolls Royce today would cost $100, get a million miles to the gallon and explode once a year, killing everyone inside." - Robert Cringely, InfoWorld Columnist

bmpkns2
12-19-2001, 11:15 AM
It sounds like a networking problem. If you have a hub, then you should have a router also right? try hooking up the different comps individually without going through the hub, and see if that works, if it does, then it is a networking problem.

Just my two cents, trying to help. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Ghost_Hacker
12-19-2001, 12:01 PM
bmpkns2 suggestion is a good one and worth trying, if you haven't already.

A "blank page" from Internet Explorer sometimes is caused by not having ActiveX, Java or some other setting/plugin enabled. If your not getting an error and there is a "done" at the bottom of IE, then that's the second thing I would look at. Also I would empty the temporary internet folder.

jes
12-19-2001, 03:19 PM
The computer all run the same version of IE(6) and all use the default installation of it. P2(the gateway) is in my basement and is the one beside the phone jack for the phone line that I use for the internet. The other two computers, P1 and C1, are two floors up.
C1 has a modem in it and I have connected it to the internet on the phone line that I usually use exclusively for my phone. The problem in question still occurs. I don't think this is a networking problem, but it was the first thing I suspected too because the two problematic PCs are the ones that access the internet over the LAN.

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"If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer a Rolls Royce today would cost $100, get a million miles to the gallon and explode once a year, killing everyone inside." - Robert Cringely, InfoWorld Columnist

jes
12-19-2001, 03:26 PM
Also, I have emtied the temp internet files. Nada.

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"If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer a Rolls Royce today would cost $100, get a million miles to the gallon and explode once a year, killing everyone inside." - Robert Cringely, InfoWorld Columnist

mjc
12-19-2001, 04:38 PM
Do the other machines have cookies enabled?

You can look for the cookie from th bank and copy it to the other machines...that should give the same account, last visited, etc details to all three machines.....

Do you have any kind of firewall?

And have you tried using the modem on C1 to connect to the internet and go to the page in question that way? (just for C1)


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jes
12-19-2001, 08:53 PM
The whole network usually uses the modem on P2 and the second phone line. I have tried using the modem on C1 trough the first phone line and got the same problem. That's why I don't think that it is a network problem.

The first idea of yours from your last post is interesting. Do you mean the file that pertains to ing direct that is in windows/cookies?

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"If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer a Rolls Royce today would cost $100, get a million miles to the gallon and explode once a year, killing everyone inside." - Robert Cringely, InfoWorld Columnist

jes
12-19-2001, 09:11 PM
Allright. I got skrewing aroung with the security and privacy setting on P2 and C1 so C1 and P1 now get the site!
The problem now is "Did I make this box too vulnerable?"
I enabled signed and unsigned activex controlls. What does that mean?

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"If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer a Rolls Royce today would cost $100, get a million miles to the gallon and explode once a year, killing everyone inside." - Robert Cringely, InfoWorld Columnist

mjc
12-20-2001, 03:29 AM
Ok...set the unsigned ActiveX to at least prompt....

and wyes that is the cookie I meant...sometimes the data contained n the cookie will have the needed info to connect to a site, and transferring the cookie will make it look like it was the machine that originally was getting through.

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mjc
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Celts are the men that heaven made mad, For all their battles are merry and their songs are all sad.

jes
12-20-2001, 03:31 PM
What is the difference between the signed and unsighned active x?

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"If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer a Rolls Royce today would cost $100, get a million miles to the gallon and explode once a year, killing everyone inside." - Robert Cringely, InfoWorld Columnist

Paul Komski
12-20-2001, 03:57 PM
If an ActiveX control does something bad to a user's computer then if it is signed then the person who wrote the code can be traced. If it is unsigned then no tracking is possible. Either could do "harm" but only signed ones can be traced.

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