upgrading OS and processor

[kueijie]

:eek: 1st problem: Now i'm running on win 98, and thinking of getting a win2K installer disk from my friend, so that i can install it

:rolleyes:question: if i get the disk from him, how should i start(that's right i'm not very sure should i install it)?? Must i put in the disk b4 my com load window, or should i let it run after i loaded the win(will it change into win2K after i restart)?? will the istallation affect my things in HD in anyway??

:eek: 2nd problem: Now i'm using on a P3 550Mhz computer. Bus is 100Mhz on 5.5 mutiplexer.I thinking of upgrading it to at least 1G. but I'm a bit confuse:confused: or should i say i dun understand at all the different between CPU processor and Motherboad.

:rolleyes:Question: Can someone explain to me the different between the CPU and motherboard?? or can i just buy a cpu processor and DIY and i'm done with my new 1+G computer?

[Fruss Tray Ted]

Sounds like you've got some READING (http://www.pcguide.com/intro/index.htm) to do before you mess around with much.

I don't think you can upgrade from 98 to 2000 because of the different core structure of the operating system. You would have to reformatt your hard-drive disk (HDD) and install W2000 alone or as some do, as part of a dual boot system.

Why do you want Windows 2000 at this time? Windows 98 is still extremely popular and is very easy to use and help is widely available for the little quirks and errors you may encounter along the way experimenting and installing various items or peripherals.

You'll need to know some info(rmation) on your motherboard to know if it can handle a faster chip (CPU) or Central Processing Unit. Voltages and socket type will need to be right among other things.

[kueijie]

i got no choice, currently i'm studying a diploma course which teaches us a module called Software Engieering which which is basically learning J++, and the Visual Studio. Net Software me and my classmate shared(bought) only support win2K and winXp, it does not support win98. So i need to install the win2K OS so as to get the Visual Studio. Net Software installed.

[Fruss Tray Ted]

Do you have important documents and such on your W98? Is it on a separate partition? If so can you burn them to disks? If not, you might want to consider getting A: a CD-RW burner, B: A second hard-drive to install W2000 onto so you don't lose any files if you don't want to burn them right now.

I would also suggest going to the Windows forum here and also the How Do I... archive forum and use the search button to find a few threads on reformatting and/or installing the various systems. Also if you go the HDD route, to search the appropriate forum for installing a second hard-drive.

Others may pipe in a view of their own, hang tight.

[Paleo Pete]

The CPU is an IC chip (Integrated Circuit) that is located on the motherboard.

The motherboard is a circuit board that contains all the circuitry to send data to and from the CPU and all other components plugged into it.

Here are some pictures of various CPUs:

Rise and Cyrix chips (http://cpusite.examedia.nl/sections/various-pics.html)

Here are various Intel chips Intel pics (http://cpudb.d-7.net/intel.php)

And some AMD (http://cpudb.d-7.net/amd.php)

And here is a
Motherboard (http://strieg.mse.uiuc.edu/tmcmobopics/tmcfull.jpg), actually an older 486 with VLB slots. Those are the two near the bottom with an extra section sticking out to the right.

Several newer Motherboards (http://www.tomshardware.com/mainboard/99q4/991110/index.html) at the top of this page, small, but maybe you can get the idea.

Was going to also attach a picture of a P4 plugged into a socket, but couldn't get it small enough...why they posted it larger than my screen, I'll never know...

OK I found one, small but it's a motherboard and I'm tired of looking..have a major league headache too so I'm off to bed...

ASUS P4S533

[kueijie]

OK, I have done some read-up.... (but still not sure) that's means i can go into a computer shop, buy any CPU processor(slot-1) off the shelf, go home, open up my casing, replace the CPU, on my computer, and i'm done. No need to set anything, RIGHT??:)

[Fruss Tray Ted]

Once you have determined what socket you have, you still need to find out what processors your motherboard will support by going to their website. (because of voltages and maybe other reasons)

A couple free programs for you to download to help you see what you have for internal components although you could read the information of from your motherboard and get SOME of the info that way.

1: Belarc Advisor (http://www.belarc.com/Download.html)

2: Sisoft Sandra (http://www.sisoftware.demon.co.uk/san_dem/html/dload.htm)

Please don't go and install something without either help from here or the shop you are purchasing it from. I would NOT advice you to go to Staples or some other retail store that has NO support staff whatsoever at this time. The parts for computers are as far and wide as automobile parts. And even worse, they may fit but may ruin something or other to do with your system if you put them in and try to run them.

Next time you post, could you try to let us know as much you can about your:

1: Motherboard maker and/or model
2: type of chipset on your 'mobo'
3: amount and type of RAM (memory or Random access memory)
4: Power supply wattage to see if it enough for a larger CPU and memory and other peripherals
5: other particulars if you want, size and number of hard-drives, CD-ROM's etc.

[Paleo Pete]

OK, I have done some read-up.... (but still not sure) that's means i can go into a computer shop, buy any CPU processor(slot-1) off the shelf, go home, open up my casing, replace the CPU, on my computer, and i'm done. No need to set anything, RIGHT??

WRONG...

As mentioned above, you have to choose a CPU by what CPU speeds and brands are suported by your motherboard. Some may only support Intel, some only AMD. The motherboard has a bus speed and multiplier that limit maximum CPU speed. If you have a 100MHz main bus speed, (front side bus or FSB) and multiplier no higher than 8X, for example, you will not be able to use a CPU faster than 800MHz.

Find out what motherboard you have and what CPU brands and speeds it will support before even thinking about buying parts...

[Nooyawkah]

You might consider a Window XP Home upgrade? It would cost you but it sure would be easier.

[kueijie]

My PC spec as below

Motherboard: PCCHIPS, M756LMRT
chipset: North- SiS 630x, South- SiS 5595
RAM: 1 stick 64MB, 1 stick 128MB
Power supply: Not very sure but guessed should be normal 230W
misc: 6x DVD, 1 3.5", 1 100M Zip, 10G HD
Bus: 100Mhz
Multiplx: 5.5 time being(but i read my motherboard that manual guide said that i can adjust it, but dunno to how much)

So how??

[Fruss Tray Ted]

I went to Pcchips motherboards website but the closest I found to your description was "M765MRT". I then tried to look at the specs anyway and got a "cannot display page" error. Could you try to find you motherboard on-line and post a link to the page?

You mention a manual. Is there any mention of supported CPU's in it? For example, mine states that all the Athlon and Duron processors are supported. (Socket A)

Maybe someone who has seen or knows these mobo's will join in and assist you on your quest... :)

[Nooyawkah]

So how??

It's not clear if this is directed at me or not. Just in case it is, the XP upgrade is easy. Make sure you buy XP Home "UPGRADE." Just put the disk in and follow the instructions. It's that easy. If for some reason it doesn't work, go into your bios and check "boot from CD. Put in the disk, reboot and follow instructions.

[Paleo Pete]

Well, I found a manual Here (http://www.stud.fernuni-hagen.de/q3998142-bin/cgi-bin/pccmb.sh) but NO JUMPER SETTINGS...GRRR...