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mjc
08-24-2002, 11:23 AM
Email Clients

Pegasus (http://www.pmail.com/)
Vivian Mail (http://www.deepsleep.de/software/vivianmail/vivianmail.html)
Kaufman Mail Warrior (http://pages.infinit.net/kaufman/Index.htm)
Popcorn (http://www.ultrafunk.com/products/popcorn/) (Popcorn is once again under a measure of development, the latest release is 1.40 dated May 20, 2003)
FoxMail (http://fox.foxmail.com.cn/) (can't seem to find an English page any longer)
Eudora (http://www.eudora.com/)
Phoenix Mail (http://sourceforge.net/projects/phxmail/)
UnixMail for Windows (http://unixmail-w32.sourceforge.net/)
Thunderbird (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/) Standalone email client from the Mozilla Project.
Alpine (http://www.washington.edu/alpine/acquire/) (another Unix to Windows port, not POP3) 2.09MB
scribe (http://www.memecode.com/scribe.php) 587KB
Althea (http://althea.sourceforge.net/)
CLAWS (http://www.claws-mail.org/)
Mahogany (http://mahogany.sourceforge.net/)
Mutt (http://www.mutt.org/)

Email Tools

POP3Hot (http://pop3hot.com/) (The Pop3Hot - eMail Transfer Agent)
MailWasher (http://www.mailwasher.net/) A pre-filtering app, will read the headers and allow you to delete the SPAM before downloading
EmC (http://www.abreuretto.com/anti-spam/indexi.htm) similar to Mailwasher


BROWSERS

K-meleon (http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/)
FireFox (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/)
SeaMonkey (http://www.seamonkey-project.org/) (this a the full suite from the Mozilla folks. Pretty much replaces the old Mozilla and Netscape suites)
Opera (http://www.opera.com/download/)

An interesting little browser that doesn't see much development, but can be handy...
OffbyOne (http://offbyone.com/offbyone/)




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ErnieK
08-24-2002, 07:34 PM
Yet again mjc you have come out tops. Another very handy list to have.

Now do you have a list of desperate blonds, brunets or even bald headed young/old ladies:D

RKBA
08-25-2002, 09:30 AM
Hmmm... Conspicuously absent from the free email client list is Outlook Express. :eek:

Not quite free, but very inexpensive is Poco (http://www.pocomail.com/) ($25). No, I don't use it but I am looking for a decent alternative to Eudora Pro that:
1. Leaves email as plain ASCII text instead of encoding it in some proprietary encoding like Outlook Express does.
2. Is compatible with PGP such that I'm able to invoke PGP from within the mail client.
3. Lets me view email using most of the vertical height of my screen instead of wasting 1/4 of the vertical span on jumbo toolbar icons, status bars, etc.
4. Multiple email accounts.
5. Filters.

-- Ron

mjc
08-26-2002, 01:15 PM
Outlook Express is not on the list because it is included in the full installer of IE...just like NS and Mozilla's email apps are n't listed separately (though I'm not sure that Moz's can be had as a separate program and the newer NS ones can't....I should probably note that some where, huh?)

I did think about Poco, but decided to keep the list to the freebies, i might add the low cost or make another list...

Paul Komski
08-27-2002, 07:01 PM
RKBA you might like to check-out The Bat (http://email.about.com/library/ec/pr/aapr_the_bat.htm); free (for 30days). BTW it is stated to be invulnerable to KLEZ.

RKBA
08-28-2002, 03:46 AM
EXCELLENT, Paul! The Bat looks like it has everything I want, nothing I don't want, and it looks like the tool bars can be arranged vertically along the side of the screen to allow more head space for messages. I'll definitely give it a try.

About a year or so ago, I tried several different email clients while trying to find a replacement for Eudora (which is when I tried Poco), but either they have significantly improved "The Bat" since then or I somehow missed it.

Thank you,

-- Ron

Lucias_Clay
08-28-2002, 10:15 PM
The most interesting one I've seen is 'Hushmail'
https://www.hushmail.com/?PHPSESSID=d586daa3fcb3b833a0b31106156936bd
It is best used if two people are using it. Taking full advantage of its 2,048bit encryption. messages sent to and from hushmail users are secure even from hushmail itself. If your email is ever subpeonaed
because not even Hush can access the encryption keys of individual users, in the case of a subpoena Hush would only be able to provide the encrypted (coded) version of the transmitted email.
I haven't used hushmail in a long time(since my last 'puter died) but its interface then was simple no spell check or fonts and no clickable links.

RKBA
08-29-2002, 03:06 AM
According to the online description of their method, they use PGP. Since PGP is freely available from MIT (http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html) and other places, I'm surprised that they get very many customers for their premium service (which costs $30/year).

PGP supports keys up to 4096 bits in length and is easy to use. I wish I knew more people who used it regularly so that I could have a chance to refresh my memory of my passphrase more often. As it is, I have to remember to sign something with it every so often so that I don't forget it. If anyone would like to correspond with me just for fun using PGP, my 2048 bit public key can be found at http://home.pacbell.net/rsdotson/misc/rdotsonPublicKey.txt

-- Ron

sleddog
09-11-2002, 08:27 PM
Browsers...

1. Opera, for research and any serious information-searching (on both Windows and Linux).
2. Mozilla, for fun, when I'm not in a hurry (on both Windows and Linux).
3. Internet Explorer, when I'm working on someone else's machine and there's no other choice.

E-Mail...

Becky. I've tried every e-mail client in the universe and this is the best, IMO :)

Newsreader...

Mozilla, with the retro 'EarlyBlue' skin of course. It's not a great newsreader yet, but it gonna be. And it's fun to watch it evolve.

sleddog
09-20-2002, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by RKBA
Hmmm... Conspicuously absent from the free email client list is Outlook Express. :eek:

But Outlook Express is not free.

If you don't believe me, try this:

1. Go to your local computer store and purchase all the necessary components to build your own PC.

2. Bring them home and put them all together.

3. Call Microsoft and ask them where to get a free version of Outlook Express.

Assuming you actually get to speak to someone, they will tell you that:

a. To run Outlook Express you need Microsoft Windows.
b. To run Microsoft Windows you need to purchase a license.

Ergo to use Outlook Express you must pay money to Microsoft. This is an example of tying, a practice that has gotten Microsoft in a fair bit of trouble :)

In order to obtain a free version of Outlook Express you must run a pirated version of Microsoft Windows. And of course no-one wants to do that!

sleddog
09-20-2002, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by RKBA
... I am looking for a decent alternative to Eudora Pro that:
1. Leaves email as plain ASCII text instead of encoding it in some proprietary encoding like Outlook Express does.
2. Is compatible with PGP such that I'm able to invoke PGP from within the mail client.
3. Lets me view email using most of the vertical height of my screen instead of wasting 1/4 of the vertical span on jumbo toolbar icons, status bars, etc.
4. Multiple email accounts.
5. Filters.


Becky -- http://www.becky-users.morelerbe.com/index.html (not free)

1. Stores mail in standard mbox format. Uses multiple mbox files (you set the size) to speed loading and protect against losing everything from one file getting corrupted/deleted. "Export" function quickly and efficiently joins them together into a single large file.

2. PGP plugin

3. Simple clean interface with small button bar. Ability to maximize message pane and navigate message-to-message. Spacebar reading of new (unread) messages.

4. Multiple accounts and multiple profiles.

5. Powerful filtering

And lots more... remote mailbox function (view/delete mail on server without downloading), options to disable HTML mail entirely (displays plaintext version of text/multipart messages), message threading (off or on, your choice), POP3 and IMAP support, small memory footprint, lots of configuration options.

Mark Miller
09-20-2002, 11:20 PM
Speaking of browsers, has anyone heard of konquer [I think thats the spelling] I saw it on tech tv, it is supposed to be for linux. i wonder if it is good for ie
Mark

Budfred
09-20-2002, 11:54 PM
Mark,

PaleoPete uses it and has a lot of good things to say about it.

Budfred

Mark Miller
09-21-2002, 12:05 AM
Hi Bud. I am not sure if the spelling is rite would you know the web site so I could take alook at it.
Thanks Mark:D

Budfred
09-21-2002, 12:12 AM
I assume you mean the site for Konquerer:

http://www.konqueror.org/

Budfred

Mark Miller
09-21-2002, 12:23 AM
Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.
Mark

shanmuga
11-04-2002, 01:18 AM
Try an excellent freeware browser, Crazy Browser

1.Tabbed Pages
2.Excellent Popup stopper
3.multiple engine search

I am using this browser for the past 1year and immensely impressed with its performance, especially with the popup filter.100% !

Its available HERE (http://www.crazybrowser.com)

Budfred
11-04-2002, 01:34 AM
Others have said good things about Crazy too.

Budfred

Paleo Pete
11-11-2002, 12:53 AM
Mark,

PaleoPete uses it and has a lot of good things to say about it.

True...A few notes about Konqueror for those unfamiliar with it.

Konqueror is the default browser for the KDE desktop under Linux Mandrake, possibly other versions of Linux (I haven't used any of the others yet so I don't know). After some checking I can't find any references to a Windows compatible version, so it looks like it's currently for Linux only.

As mentioned above, I've been using it a lot lately and have had good things to say about it. (I'm using it right now, and when using Linux it's normally the only browser I use.) It does have a few oddities, things that work different than IE, but that's to be expected with a totally different OS. Most of my posts on the forums for the last 2 months have been with Konqueror since I'm trying to learn Linux.

In general it seems to work very well, about the only negative aspect I've seen is that one of the wholesalers' sites I visit regularly refuses to work, I have to switch to Netscape to look up parts on that site. I hate Netscape...slow, too small to read, more difficult to use, and now owned by AOL, which would steer me away by itself...

Konqueror has a lot of configuration options, same as most things within Linux, looks like a cross between Netscape and IE, and works better than either. The few oddities I've noticed so far...only one choice for the Back button, the previous site, instead of the drop-down list available with IE, which is nice. It's still there, but under the "Go" menu item instead.

I use a serial scroll wheel mouse, and the wheel seems to activate links if I scroll across them and press a bit too hard. I have to clear the clipboard history frequently. Copy and paste works well, but also seems to work automatically...when you highlight something, it's copied to the clipboard, so if you want to copy and paste a link into a second browser window, you have to backspace out the existing link in the target window or it copies that one over again instead of replacing the highlighted section the way most Windows applications work.

Minor annoyances, I just have to remember to treat it differently...overall I like it pretty well. On the upside, I've noticed I can log onto the forums once, shut down all cookies afterward and it keeps my login info every time I come to the forums, instead of IE losing it every 30 minutes or so...Cookies are configurable, per-site or globally. Java is also configurable so it can still be used, but is not as intrusive and potentially damaging as with IE.

I have noticed the occasional issue with java, for example one site recently had a number of flash objects embedded and opened at least 2 browser windows for each, resulting in over 30 pop-up windows before I finally killed Konqueror to stop them. And java was set to disable pop-up windows...most sites using flash objects open about 5 windows, all pointing to the Macromedia Flash download site.

Overall, I think it will probably become my favorite browser, but don't look for it to be available for Windows...

Stealth
05-26-2003, 11:26 AM
The last couple of days I've been using "SlimBrowser" It feels a lot like IE. http://www.flashpeak.com/sbrowser/sbrowser.htm

sleddog
06-01-2003, 10:36 PM
I've been using Firebird (a Mozilla derivative) for the past week or more and I'm very impressed. It's significantly quicker than the full-blown Mozilla and quite well polished.

If you're looking for an excellent, standards-compliant and secure browser to replace IE you might check it out:

http://texturizer.net/firebird/

Version 0.6 was released recently. There are also nightly builds released since 0.6 came out. I've used several of these and find the one from 2003-05-23 to be rock solid (and it contains fixes for several bugs in the 0.6 release):

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firebird/nightly/

Just download the zip file, unzip it and run the MozillaFirebird.exe. There's no installation. It will create a user profile directory in C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Phoenix (on a Win2K/XP system, elsewhere on a Win9x system). 'Phoenix' was the previous name for Firebird. And the name 'Firebird' also will be short-lived. Yeah, it's complicated :)

pave_spectre
06-18-2003, 10:48 AM
i like the galeon browser under linux. Fairly basic and simple to use, though it needs mozilla installed.
http://galeon.sourceforge.net/

Steve
06-24-2003, 10:19 AM
While looking around, I found this BROWSER ARCHIVE (http://browsers.evolt.org/) . I never knew there were so many.

Thought it might make a good addition to this thread.

:)

shanmuga
08-12-2003, 07:49 AM
If you must use IE try the Avant Browser (http://www.avantbrowser.com)

I am using this browser for the past one month, it has like opera and mozilla, a tabbed interface,pop-up stopper,mouse gestures,skins and built in search engine support.

In addition it also has flash animation filter,with a single click you can disable downloading of flash animations, images, sounds,popups,active x,scripts etc.

But the clincher for me is, safe recovery, If Avant Browser is closed improperly, all open web pages are saved and will be automatically reopened at next startup.Even if one of the pages is closed by mistake you can reopen it immediately.

And its free download of about 1MB

So, all those who swear by IE should try this browser, which is nothing but a shell for IE.:cool:

stefanus
08-12-2003, 11:55 AM
Forgive me if it has already been posted, there is another Free e-mail client. IncrediMail, very colourful with many extras such as greetings cards smilies etc. if you are interested in that sort of thing, although in another thread I was warned to be careful with IncrediMail by a replier whilst another stated that there was nothing untoward with it. Last but not least. Thank you MJC for takeing the time to look after our interests.

carpe diem
Stefanus

jeeza
09-03-2003, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by sleddog
Ergo to use Outlook Express you must pay money to Microsoft. This is an example of tying, a practice that has gotten Microsoft in a fair bit of trouble :)
But what's actually wrong with that ?
If you are using the baker's bread, you must pay for it, I suppose ?
There are incredible quantities of all kinds of free software around for computer users and internet netizens, I know, but I think in some way or another, ultimately, you are paying for it anyhow...
I don't believe many people are going to offer the software they wrote without expecting anything in return, in one form or another.
Don't get me wrong, I like to get my application free too like most people I suppose, but logically you can't put anything against someone for wanting you to pay for their software.

jeeza
10-06-2003, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Lucias_Clay
The most interesting one I've seen is 'Hushmail'
https://www.hushmail.com/?PHPSESSID=d586daa3fcb3b833a0b31106156936bd
It is best used if two people are using it. Taking full advantage of its 2,048bit encryption. messages sent to and from hushmail users are secure even from hushmail itself. If your email is ever subpeonaed
I haven't used hushmail in a long time(since my last 'puter died) but its interface then was simple no spell check or fonts and no clickable links.

Ah - that's interesting. At last someone who knows about Hushmail.
I have posted somewhere about their Hush Messenger, which in order to use you have to have a Hushmail account.
Do you, or anyone else, have some experience with this ?
I want to try this out but would like to know about user experiences first.

jeeza
10-06-2003, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by sleddog
E-Mail...

Becky. I've tried every e-mail client in the universe and this is the best, IMO :)

Newsreader...
What do you think about Pegasus ? I tested it for a short time and was impressed.
As a newsreader, I would recommend Free Agent, and the Opera newsreader which is a part of their browser works well enough for me too.

sleddog
10-06-2003, 11:21 PM
Found the Pegasus interface convoluted. I'd spend all my time trying to figure out where I supposed to click, and forget who I was going to email :)

I'm exclusively using Thunderbird (Home (http://texturizer.net/thunderbird/)|Forums (http://forums.mozillazine.org/index.php?c=8)) now. Does everything I want with POP/IMAP mail, and news. Opera's my default webbrowser. I like the "viewpoints" idea of Opera's mail/news component, but I hate the way it stores files to disk. And the mail interface is (IMO) way too cluttered.

jeeza
10-07-2003, 09:34 AM
Convoluted ? Really ?
Maybe that's why I was impressed... :/
Admittedly it takes time to learn to familiarize yourself with it (which I didn't even take), but I think once you know it, it's very comfortable to use. I kind of liked it, right from the start. Which doesn't mean I "knew" it , of course.

Apparently the Thunderbird browser you are using is not the same as the former Phoenix, as that one doesn' have a newsreader incorporated (I know Mozilla has).

I don't know about that "viewpoints" idea of Opera, must be something recent ; I don't know the latest versions (6.*, 7.*) anyway.

As an E-mail client, this looks interesting :
JBMail 3.2 from http://www.pc-tools.net/

"JBMail is a compact and portable secure e-mail client. The software has been designed for simplicity, security and "on-line mailbox access" meaning that mail is manipulated remotely and NOT stored locally. JBMail supports POP3, SMTP, SSL/TLS and all essential mail client features - but it is not "just another" mail client."

sleddog
10-07-2003, 12:28 PM
Thunderbird is a standalone mail/news application, designed to complement the standalone Firebird web browser.

Both Thunderbird and Firebird are derived from Mozilla code. At some point in the not-to-distant future, Thunderbird and Firebird will replace the current Mozilla browser and email/news client.

"Phoenix" was the former name for Firebird (the web browser).

Viewpoints, or virtual folders, were introducted in Opera 7.

mjc
10-07-2003, 01:40 PM
Firebird is the result of a lawsuit (or threatened), by a certain BIOS maker against the Mozilla organisation.......so moz.org changed the name.

I wonder if Ford is going to get upset now with the Thunderbird name?

jeeza
12-19-2003, 03:43 PM
A list of old DOS, some text-based, browsers.
These are simple and small applications which may be interesting for experimentation and useful at times.
http://www.fdisk.com/doslynx/

Browsers to be found there are Lynx, Bobcat, Arachne, Spin, Skipper, Open World Navigator... there were a lot of them which nobody knows about today anymore.

stefanus
12-19-2003, 04:45 PM
Very interesting jeeza! There is truth in the old adage "History was written by the older generations for the edification of the younger";) :D
Stefanus

jeeza
12-20-2003, 01:31 PM
I didn't know that one, stefanus.
Have you tried working with the Lynx browser ? It's one of the oldest, maybe even the first, although that might be Mosaic.
Lynx is text-based. No pictures, no pop-ups ( :) ), no ads... no flash things, no nothing... just text.
Yes yes, our ancestors didn't have the easy lives we have.

stefanus
12-21-2003, 07:30 AM
And no Viruses,Trojans,etc "ad infinitum" ( Sorry Malcore for the miss-spelling):D. No doubt one of the NEARDS following these forums will soon alter that???
Stefanus;)

jeeza
12-21-2003, 05:38 PM
You haven't tried working with the Lynx browser.

jeeza
01-03-2004, 10:55 AM
I noticed something really funny with the OffByOne browser !
When using this browser you will see it has its own cursor icon. I mean the small hand your cursor arrow is changing into when hovering over a link ; it has a slightly different shape.
But I noticed that this shape is changing again, I think when the page is still loading - then the little hand with the pointing index is wearing a wristwatch ! :p :cool:

halovivek
04-08-2004, 03:58 PM
dear sir,
thank u so much..for ur information..these helped me a lot..
thank u

juniper
10-05-2006, 04:47 PM
Forgot Evolution E-Mail (novell/SuSE) also has exchange connector to connect to microsoft exchange server OWA.

estevo
04-10-2008, 03:41 AM
I use Private Browser, very nice browser, it also encrypts all of user data (Bookmarks, history, cache etc). There is also mail client called Private mail, encrypts user data too.

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Paula De Niro
05-14-2008, 08:51 AM
I use Gmail. It has the best spam filter I've ever seen, and you can have different variations of email for one user, so joebloggs@gmail.com (with or without the dot) will be the same as joe.bloggs@googlemail.com (with G or Googlemail).

It has a good chat too. I don't know if it's still by invitation only, but if it is, everyone gets 100 invites to give away, so I've still got lots left. PM me know if you want one.

Paula