Computer program to send data back in time! This is no joke!

[S_K_I]

more gossip and stories, cuz thats what ski does..

this sort of thing, if possible, will change computers forever, have a look see.

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20021001-125805-3380r

[UPENDRA UPADHYAY]

:D ....:D

[Mark Miller]

Very cool. I don't know if I believe in the past and the future. I kind of think there is only now
Mark

[integral]

Freom the article:
"As long as one is speculating, one might as well speculate wildly," Brun said.

All we need is a wormhole. Lots of things may happen when we find a wormhole.

[Ben2002]

"What happens if the computer is approached with a problem that would take so long to solve, the wormhole or the universe would end first?"

Nevermind that, what if the computer gets a BSOD?

[mwr1550]

The fact that no data has been recieved from the future leads me to think that it is not possible.

[ErnieK]

mwr,
The future is some point in time after the time you posted.
If you can see this post then it means that you have recieved a message from the future as this was posted 6 or 7 hours after your post:rolleyes: :D

[david eaton]

And anyway, there is no point in sending data back to a time when there are only "model T" computers to deal with it.

And again, what if some of what we call bugs are actually operations called for by programs from the future? How would we know?


David

[mwr1550]

Ernie,
But to be truly from the future I would have had to recieve the reply before I sent my original post:eek:

[Mark Miller]

I think something just the oppisite is possible. That is getting things from the past because they have happened. The future has not so how can we get something from it.
If you understand this your a better man than me Charlie Brown
Mark

[steveo]

I thought the future has already happened.

[Mark Miller]

I think I'll have to watch the old Star Trek with gary 7 and see how he came back from the future. Come to think of it so did the Enterprise in many differnt stories right through the Next Generation. I even think Superman did it in The orignal [of this era] movie trying to save Lois
I'll be back I'm getting dizzy from all this traveling.
And don't forget Billy Pillgram from Slaugter House 5 [This will really see how old you are}
Mark:D :D :D

[Budfred]

If you want to go back in time for time travelors, you have to go to H.G. Wells. I don't think he was the first, but he developed it the most in a time when it was not even theoretically possible. At least with Quantum physics it is theoretically possible, but the paradoxes are overwhelming.

Budfred

[steveo]

I understand about the paradoxes but I've heard some pretty good arguments over the years that the paradox angle isn't as vital as we make it out to believe. Just thinking aloud because what do I know...

[Budfred]

The paradox angle is usually compensated for by postulating an infinite number if parallel universes with new ones being created to prevent the havoc that would occur if I went back in time and told me to put the money I made selling newspapers into a little company called International Business Machines (IBM). Another way that it is compensated for is with the idea that the universe will simply make whatever adjustments are necessary to maintain order. Problem with both ideas is that they assume some greater anthrocentric plan. If you don't buy that, the stories about time travelers returning to find the world run by cockroaches begin to make more sense.

Budfred

[steveo]

I suppose what I'm thinking is that we really won't know about creating a paradox and the ramifications thereof until we actually create one and see what happens. To me this is truth.

On another note maybe we already are which might explain why everything is messed up as it is on this grand rock of ours.

[ErnieK]

mrw
If you cross the time line from europe to usa you either go back in thime or go forwards. So it there for possible for a mail to be sent on the 15th of the month and recieved on the 14th of the same month. This would mean that you would have recieved a mail or make a post from the future as it would have been sent one day later than you recieved it.:confused:

[Mark Miller]

Hi Ernie,
Good point, but those are artifical times differences that we set up so time would be uniform with the rising and setting of the sun around the world.
Mark

[Budfred]

steveo,

Your last point addresses the likely reality of a time paradox. The only way one would even be aware of one is if one could somehow stand outside the timeline and observe it. The theories/fantasies that account for how a paradox could happen all suggest that one can't be aware of the consequences of it happening. So if time travelers returned to the present to find cockroaches in charge of the world, there would be a good chance that they are cockroaches too and that they have no memory of any other option. Or...they would simply cease to exist in that reality, so they would not actually return to the present. The concepts get awfully tricky and convoluted verty quickly.....

Need to go rest my brain....:eek: :D :D

Budfred

[Mark Miller]

Quick question, what actually is time? Is it the speed of light or the artifical point we call seconds-minutes -hours -days etc.?
Mark :confused:

[Budfred]

Mark,

Yes.

Budfred

[Whyzman]

Time is a sequence of events.......

If a tree stands in the forest, and doesn't fall or make a noise, does time stand still? Watch how you answer this one....:p

[Vic 970]

good question.

what is time? when we talk of time, we generally refer to our method of recording the 'passing' of time, so if you were to travel to another galaxy, universe or another part of our own (or even the same) how would you know that you had travelled in 'time' ?
one could only summise from the native's fashion, surroundings and/or their method of recording the passing of time since we know the latter to be artificial, what belief could we have in the other circumstances.?

[Mark Miller]

Very cool stuff,
Vic, I think if we travelled any place within our own dimension that time would remain the same [as to our own way of dealing with time] I think the change would come if we travelled or could reach another dimension where are own rules might change.
Mark:)

[Whyzman]

Traveling entails a sequence of events....time then passes....Hmmmmmm

"The Vulcan High Command has determined that time travel is not possible!"

[steveo]

To me time doesn't exsit...it's merely a human invention to help keep things a bit more orderly whether we actually need that order or not (although we certainly have become depended upon it).

To say that time is ticking away, the moments that make up the dull day...is just as good an explanation as anything else I've ever heard.

[Mark Miller]

True, True, but still very cool.
Mark:D :D