3.06 ghz

[Mark Miller]

I was lucky enough through a friend to test a new Gateway 3.06 ghz computer today. This is the first one from intel with hyperthreading, like having 2 proccesors. To tell you the truth it just was not that much quicker than my 1.8 g4. I was told that the apps are not there yet. I think the speed trip is over and they should work harder on making pc's like TV, just turn them on and they work [wishful thinking].Anyway Gateways 18 inch lcd was nice, but I really want the 19inch lcd from Samsung, the only one that I have seen that was as good as crt. My rant for the nite
Mark:cool:

[Ghost_Hacker]

they should work harder on making pc's like TV, just turn them on and they work


Oh how I agree with that. One reason console games sell better than PC games. You could be playing them in the same amount of time your PC is still booting up.

[Active Techster]

Wouldnt it be nice!


Unfortunatly though without bus speeds and faster processors this is never going to happen although it would be nice...

A 10ghz P4 and you would certainly see a difference, between and 1.8 and a 3Ghz processor there isn't going to be an awful lot of difference in terms of overall speed but overall performance and the 3Ghz rips it to pieces,,,I reckon in about 3years you'll have your PC starte on like a TV thing....


In the mean time...you could just use that nice LCD monitor of yours like a TV and just flip that switch whilst leaving your PC unit switched on...hehe.

Pid:D

[Ghost_Hacker]

though without bus speeds and faster processors this is never going to happen although it would be nice...



hehehhehe.....That's the problem with the PC industry always worried about speed. Haven't you noticed that PCs today aren't much different than PCs of 8 or 9 years ago. Programs stiil crash, programs must still be installed, drivers must still be updated, and patches appllied. Doing almost anything on a computer becomes a "job" of looking at how much of this or that you have, do you have the right drivers and the lastest patch and then hoping it all works, cause if it doesn't you end up at a site like this one begging for help.

Sure computers are faster and more powerfull, but they still have the same old problems and that's what they need to work on not breaking the lastest speed limit, so you can get to your error message faster. :D

[sea69]

Sure computers are faster and more powerfull, but they still have the same old problems.

G_H- which keeps people like you employed!

lmao

;)

[Ghost_Hacker]

I work on Networks and severs I'm not a $50 pr hour PC repair man :)


No insult intended towards those who are. :)

[sea69]

anyone who has even briefly stumbled through here already knows that Ghost_Hacker is the one who has the correct answer when nobody else does!


yep gotta give props where they're due

we're lucky to have you here!



;)

[bellboy]

Originally posted by Ghost_Hacker

Haven't you noticed that PCs today aren't much different than PCs of 8 or 9 years ago. Programs stiil crash, programs must still be installed, drivers must still be updated, and patches appllied.

LOL.

[Ghost_Hacker]

we're lucky to have you here!




I'm glad to be here!! :D


Was wondering where you and iisbob had gone off to to, nice to see you back :)

[Dangerous]

I agree that PC's haven't changed much in recent years, sure a few new processors get released each every week and the odd graphics card but nothing groundbreaking. You can pick up a PC mag and look at one from the month before, they'll both have the same cover story "Brand new x.xGhz chip out now!"... I bet if you look at the month BEFORE that, it'd be the same.

I'd love to be able to turn my PC on and be using it in the space of a few breaths, I'd love to sit there for a couple of hours without some kind of bug, error or glitch... but until all PC's use the same hardware, I doubt it'll happen.

You have to understand, that it much more of a task to write software, (apps AND games) when you aren't using a standard platform. The very nature of the PC and it's flexibility are the same things that give us buggy software and dodgy games. You don't see these patch issues on consoles, but those games are written for a specific set of hardware.

Anyway, just thought I'd go into one. I love my PC, I haven't actually used it in a while, it takes forever to boot up... plus I have my Xbox just begging to be used.... mmmmmm....

D :p

[Ghost_Hacker]

I have always said that the PC won't last much longer.


Still I'm not talking about just how fast a PC comes on (which is really unimportant, since I don't turn mine off :D ) but for instance.........


Why is it that to install a drive (any drive) means opening the case and unscrewing this and that. We should be able to change a drive by simply grabbing it and pulling it out. This feature should, by now, be common place. My laptop has this feature. Why not my PC??

I could go on but the point I belive is that the PC is tech that doesn't work. ( this was OK 10 years ago, but for me it's getting old now) Why??? Because you have to think about it.


For example, take the TV, a refrig, or a can opener. (or most any device that doesn't get a lot of wear and tear) I don't need to run any maintance on them, I don't try to fix any of them myself, and ,if they do break, I'll just replace them with a newer model. In other words I don't have to think about 'em I just use 'em. This is tech that works.

The above can't be said about PCs.


Rant over :D :D

[Mark Miller]

Actually Ghost, we are in the era of pc's that is very much the same as cars at the begining of the century. It was the same, just getting them to work was what lots of people loved to do. I think pc's will be the same and everybody will just be picking body style and types of things that they want to do. As for now we are still in the tinkering stage.
Mark:)

[Budfred]

I just bought a Super Blow & Vac for the 3 maple trees in my front yard (and sundry leaves from other trees). This was to replace the Super Blow & Vac that I bought after I moved into my house a few years ago. It had died after I had collected a couple of bags of leaves this year. As I was using the new one and fuming to myself that it was designed worse than the last one, so that it takes about twice as long and twice the fuss to empty the bag, I thought about how much use I actually got out of the old one. I use it for a few hours each year, so that over the course of the time I had it, it probably ran about 20 to 30 hours. Now the warranty expired long ago because it is for periods of months or years and the blow-vac worked fine for the first couple of years. But that is only a few hours of actual use.

The point is, if I had a computer that lasted that long, it would be an incredible piece of junk. We now expect computers to last for years, probably to be replaced before they die. I wouldn't think of replacing my appliances because a new faster model comes out, but I do with the computer all the time. The most fragile parts of a computer last for 1000s of hours. This is and isn't a big change from a few years ago. My original 8088 12Mhz computer probably would still work today, but it cost me almost $3000 and operated with 2 floppy disk drives and no hard drive. It was an appliance and required little tweaking, especially by today's standards. But it also couldn't begin to do the things that my computer can do today.

I fully expect computers in a few years to be much more portable and probably fully voice operated. I am looking forward to that time, but I am also going to regret it because much of the challenge will be gone. I also expect progress to that point to be slow as long as the computer industry is run by a few monopolies that will benefit more from stagnation than innovation. Microsoft has embraced new technologies and become dominant in them, but only after someone else showed that these new technologies could work and would be desired by the public. Internet Explorer wouldn't exist if Netscape hadn't been successful first.

That is my rant for the day, thank you and good night...:D
Budfred

[deddard]

When the larger Flash Memory cards come down in price over th next couple of years, then PCs will be able to switch like TVs - if you could get a couple of gigs of solid state memory as the boot portion of your PC, and have enough for your commonly used apps, then HDDs will be just there for the larger apps and backup/storage.
Of course, system bios' will need to recognsie the flash memory as bootable.

[sea69]

Toaster PC (http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,14637,00.asp)

;)

[Mark Miller]

Yeah, but look at it this way. If computers ran well and you did not have to play with them forums like this probably would not exist, and I for one enjoy thiese posts and am willing to spend alot of money on a thing that is nothing but trouble [though with XP lots less trouble]
mark:D

[sea69]

without computers, I'd probably be a bum somewhere.

lol


whereas, with them I have done very well.....after learning how to make use of them- infinite source of knowlege at your fingertips instantly- who could ask for more??


;)

[bellboy]

Originally posted by Mark Miller
Actually Ghost, we are in the era of pc's that is very much the same as cars at the begining of the century. It was the same, just getting them to work was what lots of people loved to do. I think pc's will be the same and everybody will just be picking body style and types of things that they want to do. As for now we are still in the tinkering stage.
Mark:)

i try to tell people something similar. i try to tell them that when cars were not as common most users would knew how to maintain their own systems until businesses or a man around the corner began fixing them. it's the same for computers.