problem with ide cables and hard drive/cdrom

[ake_noggin]

I'm having a bit of a problem with an old computer of mine. the system in question is an amd 486dx 100Mhz, 48 megs ram, and all the other stuff. until last year, this was my primary system, but now i have a dell. according to memory, it was working fine the last time i used it. recently, i took the cdrom and the HD out of the system because i thought i might have need of them in another system, and the other day, i hooked the HD up to my dell. in order to do this, i had to use my old ide cable, and i forgot where i took it from on my old motherboard.

Now, i've got everything hooked up again, and as far as i can see, there are three or four places where my ide cable can hook up to my motherboard (thru cards, like the sound card, or modem, or whatever else is stored in that area. im not the best with computers). there are two things that will happen when i turn my computer on. in scenario one, the ide cables are all hooked up, the power is all hooked up, and the only things that i can hear are the fan on the processor and the fan in the power supply. in scenario two, i unhook the ide cable from the motherboard, the power is hooked up, and the cdrom and the HD both turn on. my problem is that i can't get the hd and cdrom to turn on when they're hooked up to the motherboard.

[ake_noggin]

and then i realized that it helps if the motherboard is hooked up to the power supply, too... never mind, i think i got it figgered out... now i just gotta get my monitor working, and im set.

[j_sayles]

I am pretty sure Dell uses the cable select feature but your hard drive and cd-rom may not have it so maybe someone else can give you step by step directions

[Whyzman]

Hello ake_noggin,

Welcome tohttp://www.pcguide.com/ubb/pcgubb.gif Forums!

I'm going to jump right in both feet...

Your HardDrive would be the Primary Master...which would be connected to the end of the IDE cable. Your CDROM would be Primary Slave and connected to the middle of the same IDE cable.

I would check on your MotherBoard for text next to the Primary IDE connector.

I would assume that you did nothing with the jumpers on either the HDD or the CDROM.

Power would be connected to both devices from the connectors extending from the Power Supply.

If you know the Manufacturer of the MotherBoard and number that would be helpful.

Power to the MotherBoard would definitely help...

[CuratoR]

:D :D :D aka_noggin didn't hook up the mobo to the power supply and was expecting his comp to run.:D :D :D He realized in the end though.

[mjc]

CuratoR, would you please try to tone it down a little?

aka_noggin didn't hook up the mobo to the power supply and was expecting his comp to run. He realized in the end though.

Stuff like that starts trouble and right now I am not in the mood for THAT kind of trouble...

[CuratoR]

thanks for the warning mjc!!!
I know u are the moderator.
To be true, I never thought that way. I just thought that was funny. Yeah, me too, don't want no trouble. But if trouble comes uninvited, I don't fear to face it. And I'm always in the mood for THAT.

[ake_noggin]

I dont understand how what he said would start trouble???

[Budfred]

If you did not perceive the comment as an insult, that is good. My perception is that it was a taunt designed to make fun of someone who was struggling to make their computer work. Since most of the people who come here asking questions are experiencing a similar struggle, most people here strive to be very respectful no matter what level the person asking the question is at so that people will safe to come here and ask their questions without fear of being insulted. Even if you weren't offended, other people who read that might be and think twice about asking a question for fear of being the butt of a joke. I cannot speak for mjc, but I appreciated his comment.

Budfred

[ake_noggin]

ok, thank you. i've come to realize that i often miss the most obvious (ie the two differently-coloured power cables that aren't plugged into anything) and i am not offended by people making fun of my obvious oversight. i am a newb, and i know im a newb. but i do understand now how something like that could be a problem. again, thank you.

[Whyzman]

Yes indeed, we often see folks coming here posing a question with the additional remark, "Please take it easy on me!" I suspect that they have visited other forums where they have been lampooned for their ignorance.

As Budfred aptly points out, those who frequent here strive to maintain a safe haven for all inquiries. ;)

[CuratoR]

I dont understand how what he said would start trouble???
exactly, ake_noggin.

I'm so happy that u weren't offened by my remark. My intention was not making fun out of u. I should have made the remark within myself and not posted. Anyway if u feel uncomfortable I apologize. And that was no taunt designed to make fun out of someone. It just came to my brain right at that time.
mjc's comment would have been appreciative if it was for the first line of his comment. The last line, the language was a direct threat to me. I'm offended by his last line. Ok, he owns the forum, heck I know that. And let me make this clear, I'm not frightened by his remark. I don't give a **** anyway. The worst he can do is block me out of the forum just for nuthin but he won't be a victor that way. Rest, what u folk think. And god knows, I fear none!

PS: I appreciate budfreds comment to a great extent.

[Whyzman]

CuratoR,

Takes a person of integrity to step up to the plate. I, for one, am duly impressed with your explanation of not meaning to offend! ;)

Welcome aboard...I hope you'll stick around! :)

[mjc]

CuratoR,

I edited your previous post because of some complaints...

No, I don't have it "out" for you...I am going to repeat Pete's warning to you from the other day though:

CuratoR I can't find the word "ur" in the dictionary. I can't find the word "u" either, or "becuz"...

Check the forums, you won't find anyone else using "Internet shorthand", we want clear, concise and easily understandable since we're dealing with people from all over the world, many of whom know very little about computers. If they have to decipher what you're trying to say on top of trying to understand english to begin with, it can be very tedious.

The rest of us type the entire word, you can too.



My previous statement may have been on the stern side, but we have a fairly good record of few flame wars here, because we do come down on them quickly...and if you see what I said as direct threat to you then maybe there was something in your remark that could have been a glowing ember?

I don't want to start a new war by trying to prevent one from starting, but what I said was not entirely something I had come up with on my own...it was the result of complaints received about what you said. I am glad to see that the person it was referring to was not offended by it, but there were others who found it rude.

I don't want you to go or be kicked out, because I believe you have valuable insight, information and experiance to impart. But I also don't want to see others feeling as if their intelligence is being called into question, especially when the person in question is new to these forums. One of the things that makes this place different from many of the other forums I have seen is the fact that newbies are quite welcome and that they, by definition are not going to know everything there is know about computers...if they did then it isn't very likely they would be here in the first place.

Ok.......I'll say it as plain as I can......just put a little more thought into what you are posting, if you would punch somebody in the nose for saying what you are saying to them if you were face to face, then it really doesn't need to be said. You admitted that you probably should have kept your comment to yourself, and quite probably in a real conversation it could have been funny, but often times the printed word is harsher than we intended.

I probably shouldn't have said what I said the way I said it, re-reading it several times tonight I do find it too hard. So can we just let it go now and consider this matter closed?

Oh, by the way, I love your sig.....

[CuratoR]

Ok, the matter is closed. I'm very happy that folk here are so understanding.
special thanks to whyzman, you are indeed a wise man, so noble. thanks again, I think I'll stick around ;)

thanks ake_noggin, so gentle.

thanks mjc, your explanation is, to a great extent, justifying now. I can understand what would it be like in your position.
Yeah, me too, I've seen a heck lot of forums with tons and tons of threads. I found this forum pretty different from the others thats why I took the time to register and get involved.
Regarding Internet shorthand, nice suggestion, I'll try to avoid it.
Oh! my sig..., thanks anyway.

Hope we'll have a good time.:)

[gwallen4]

MJC

I'm coming into this discussion late but I can't believe what I am reading. I don't see how anyone could be offended by what the Curator said. At most I would regard it as mildly poking fun.

And I'm not too comfortable about criticizing someone for the way he expresses himself. Are we all going to have to watch our spelling and make sure we don't split our infinitives?

Surely we have better things to do in this forum than nit-pick!

[CuratoR]

gwallen4,
wow, what a understanding fellow!

I thought Internet Shorthands were for Internet.
But I think I'm gonna have to use them on my physics assignment from now on. ;)