cpu temp

[knox]

1.2 ghz amd
ka266 iwill motherboard

What would be to hot cpu temp? I am running at 44c at full load.

[hiredgoonz]

You're fine at 44, anything under 50 is pretty good and the chip is rated to 90-95 degrees Celsius, so you're not in any danger...

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[setoguro]

your running good. just wanted to give you a heads up on those amd running temps they arn't right. if you go that high your going to fry the cpu. in the real world you start to get heat lock ups in the 70c range. if your running in the high 50s or low 60s its wise to find some better cooling.

[Randy_tx]

I wanted to know from the "Horses Mouth" not too long ago, so I emailed AMD direct. They said the Athalon can operate successfully at 195 degrees F. With a decent fan you should be able to stay around 38-45 degrees C and be FINE!

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[AwARe]

If you go to AMD's site and sniff around a little bit, you can find your way to specification files that will tell you "Exactly" at what temp any particular CPU will fry. Id recommend going "there" to get the info.

Personally I ran an older AMD at 86C for a few mins, and it didnt catch on fire, but it sure was *'!HOT!'*, and wasnt long after it shut down, so I find 90C pretty hard to swallow (Not argueing the idea that it may or may not be correct, just hard to believe). As previously mentioned and I would agree, anything over 60C is too HOT (Reguardless of whatever the spec is). With proper cooling shouldnt be that hard to keep just about anything under that temp reguardless of the spec's. Also alot of this depends on "Exacly" where you are getting your temp readings......

At any rate at 44C your fine knox, my server is 47C before I even turn it on hehehe http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

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[mjc]

Basically from what I gathered from gaming and OCing sites:

Below 20c -- some kind of exotic active cooling setup, llike running the whole thing inside of a refrigerator, immersion cooling...

20 -30c -- Peltiers, water cooling and some large fans/heatsinks

30 -50c -- Adequate cooling for most uses more or less typical in the 40's

<50c starting to see heat related problems -- lockups, crashes etc

<65c most likely never going to stable plus increasing risk of damage

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[AwARe]

Just wanted to add,

General rule of thumb, If you cant hold on to the heatsink with your fingers for any real legnth of time.........Its too HOT, otherwise if you can, it's generally cool enough and will be OK. To say it another way, if it feels HOT, then it is......very simple........pretty much under normal use the heat sink should be "extremely" warm but "Not" HOT!..........and a strong burning smell you cant quite identify is also a good warning device http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

All this tech-no-garb to tell us what we already know hehe

The numbers mjc posted seem to me like they would make a "very good general guide" and probably cover "most" CPU's........about the only thing to add to that is, Ive seen alot of CPU's run fine in the 50C+ range without many if any lockups, but its a good idea to try to stay below there if at all posible

Also AMD in general are going to run a bit hotter then an intel CPU, my PIII im currently using at this very minute is running at 36C while my AMD server Im having trouble keeping it below 57C. The last AMD CPU I had in that server ran over 60C but it was severly OC'd. The current one however not OC'd is severly under cooled.........but like I said earlier it boots up in the mid 40's....the intel boots up in the high 20's

Some run hotter then others, not really much can be done about that....

Just strap on a bigger fan !

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[hiredgoonz]

Ok, don't know where all of you got your info, but:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/cpu/athlon-1200.html
http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Howto/buildcom/socka/8.htm

and for "from the horse's mouth" info use this link:
http://www.amd.com/products/cpg/athlon/techdocs/pdf/24685.pdf

to download the lates tech docs from AMD and go to Section 6 to find a maximum die temperature of 95 degrees Celsius...

When I got my first Athlon (a Slot A) I emailed AMD and was given a max temperature of 60 degrees Celsius, if that thing could handle 60, I certainly don't think the newer ones would be any less...

And I don't remember recommending he run it that high, what I said was he was fine and gave the max rated temperature...read my post.

And do me a favor, don't contradict me unless you're right.

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[hiredgoonz]

And another thing...does anybody who contradicted my post have any ACTUAL data to back up what they said???

Not your opinions, but actual links to information would be nice if you're going to attempt to refute what I've posted.

When I post info it is correct and verified, might not be a bad policy for everybody else.

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[setoguro]

What are you getting so wiged out for? I read your post you said that the temps were good. No contradiction there. You said that amd posted that they're running temps were 90c for the athlon, true. I said heads up - there is a problem with what they said about their running temps. The thing is the core temp and what you can measure has to be two different things. In the real world (with what you can measure) you're not going to be running at 90c. You'll be locked before you even get there and that is also true. I'm not attacking you or what you are saying i'm just giving a heads up about running temps that amd has posted.

[AwARe]

Yeah no kidding goonz, whats up with that? heh

I dont remember contradicting you http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif
in fact if you read my post it explicitly says Im not trying to contradict you and I also recommend going to AMD for the "Official" info

But Reguardless what you say or what AMD says until I see a CPU running at 90C I wont believe it. This little AMD I have sitting over here next to me tries to run at about 70C once in a while and although the system never crashes I can smell the fan melting hahaha In fact the bearings were melted out of the old fan and I had to get a new one http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/eek.gif and thats all Im trying to say........

And also like was previously posted all this depends on exactly where the temp reading is taken......

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[hiredgoonz]

First, as far as I know, the thermistors used to monitor cpu temps have a built in offset to provide an accurate temperature reading, the only useful temperature to know is die temp....

Second, the thing I took issue with was:

"amd running temps they arn't right"

from your post and then just random comments from a few other posters really pi$$ed me off...

Third, where exactly did I say that 90 to 95 was a good running temp? I didn't want him to worry so I gave that bit of info just as an aside...and everybody just decided that it couldn't be right...

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[AwARe]

hmmm well since I wasnt the one that said that Im gonna get my tail outa this hahaha

(Not argueing the idea that it may or may not be correct, just hard to believe). <- I just wanna point this out from one of my earlier post's goonz http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

and I also said this "Also AMD in general are going to run a bit hotter then an intel CPU" as well as what I just said a min ago about going to AMD to get the facts........

Anyways do a shot or something hehe http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[hiredgoonz]

We must have been writing at the same time...I was responding to the post just before yours...and I was irked by the number of posts that my mention of the max die temp. elicited...I never said anybody's cpu would run that high, I simply mentioned it to assuage any concerns the starter of the thread had about his temperature...

And it could just be me, but I don't appreciate being told I'm wrong when I provide correct information obtained from a hardware manufacturer about one of their products...the degree of my frustration probably had to do with the day I was having, but I still don't see that anything I said was in ANY WAY incorrect...and that was the implication...

I'm not gonna hunt anybody down and I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it, I was ticked off and I replied to the posts...

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[sea69]

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[hiredgoonz]

Thanks sea http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif I'm better now...people just buggin me lately...

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