View Full Version : Whats a good Webpage design prog for complete beginners?
12-31-2002, 06:45 AM
I've finally taken the plunge and decided have a go at designing my own website, for an online game I play called Half-Life Day of Defeat.
This website will be a site for a clan I'm involved in, for the above game, and I'll want to put in various pictures, text and have a banner at the top of the page, as well as possibly frames and buttons to link to other sections.
I'd also like to add a message board link to it.
I'm a complete beginner when it come's to this lark, and although my General Windows/PC knowledge is above average, I'm new to HTML etc.
What I'd like to know, is what is a good designer that simplifies things like HTML?.
I'm not ready to splash out hundreds of pounds on a retail package, but I have various shareware/Freeware/Trial versions on lots of Mag coverdisks that I could use, Namo Webeditor and Serif Webplus for example.
Can anyone recommend a few for me to start with, and possible some links to "guides" on how to get started?.
Hosting wont be a problem, as I have an account with Clanpages.com set up and I have a grasp of FTP, so its just the "business end" of things I think I'll need advice on!!.
Thanx in advance.
12-31-2002, 03:07 PM
Any of the programs you mention will do the job, but for really "clean" HTML that will work in any browser, I still like notepad, and code by hand. Even now, I have to refer to books for the correct syntax for some tags, but when you do it this way, you know the code, and altering it is MUCH easier.
For uploading the page, I like WS-FTP, which you can download from www.ipswitch.com (http://www.ipswitch.com/).
Hope that helps
12-31-2002, 08:32 PM
Although nearly no third party software is totally good at producing really clean HTML both MSWord and MSPublisher can produce good functional pages/sites with relative ease (the latter through the use of wizards), if you already have the apps along with an MSOffice Installation.
Not quite sure what the implication of "I'd also like to add a message board link to it" is. A link to the site or page can be placed on any web-page, email, newsgroup anywhere with ease. If you are wanting to create your own message board then both the web hosts and the software involved becomes more critical.
1st Page 2000 (http://www.evrsoft.com/) has been recommended by many as a great free html editor - though I have no personal experience. Front Page Express would be another freebie but I have no link for it.
01-01-2003, 10:49 AM
Thanx for the replies folks.
I've decided to try using Namo Web Editor, and I'm slowly getting to grips with it.
Someone I know suggested using Macromedia Dreamweaver MX, and said it was a very powerful prog for creating webpages with flash etc, but I'm not sure its for beginners like me!!.
I think I'll stick with the basics for now with Namo, I'm assuming I can add Flash later if need be with a plug-in of some sort anyway.
Again, thanx for the advice, I have got a book from my brother called "Learn HTML in a weekend", although again, I think it may well take a little longer than that!!.
Oh yeah, and have a nice New Year y'all.......!!!....Still kinda drunk whilst typing this........ :)
01-01-2003, 12:31 PM
I'm not ready to splash out hundreds of pounds on a retail package
Someone I know suggested using Macromedia Dreamweaver
Dreamweaver is what many graphic designers use; but I'm afraid the two quotes are incompatible. :(
01-01-2003, 12:36 PM
Yeah, but there is the option to download a trial version from the net, and errrrr........"alter" it's code a little........ :)
01-01-2003, 01:19 PM
It would no longer be a retail package then.
01-01-2003, 01:42 PM
01-02-2003, 02:53 PM
If you go to the following link http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/tut/
and download their lessons on writing HTML you will find it extremely easy to understand and follow.
As regulars here know I have trouble absorbing the written word, and I have - and am, finding it very easy to use.
They have a site that they get you to make up (locally) in the lessons, and you start working on your own site at the same time. Doing it this way you sort out your mistakes in the lessons. It takes you from the basic web page to full site with frames, java etc.
I would suggest that you have two or three browsers on your computer so that you can see what your site looks like in various setups.
Good luck and let us know when you have something up and running
01-02-2003, 03:15 PM
Fiery. I would certainly agree with ErnieK's advice.
If you have the "learn HTML in a weekend" book, then work through that instead or as well. Then you know what clean code looks like, and amendments to your pages can be done very easily by hand if need be.
While MSWord will produce webpages, if you want to use it, TURN OFF THE SMARTQUOTES FEATURE FIRST! This uses non-ASCII codes for some characters and can turn your page into gibberish. (Which would be OK if you were writing a webpage about gibberania :D ). Alternatively, see Demoronizer (http://www.fourmilab.ch/webtools/demoroniser/) for details.
01-02-2003, 04:05 PM
Thanx very much indeed for all your replies folks. I appreciate it.
I've started both reading "Learn HTML in a weekend" and using Namo Webeditor. I'm getting there slowly, although one thing with Namo puzzles me. I have a basic frame on the left of the page, and want to add buttons in the left hand frame to jump to other sections of my site, which I've already done. I just cant figure out how to do this?. What do you go to in the menu after right clicking on a heading/button in a frame to link said button to another page?. Any ideas?.
Thanx again for your help, all of you.....!!!
01-03-2003, 03:09 PM
Not certain about how to do it with Namo Webeditor, but the code you want depends on whether you want the link to open in the right-hand frame, or in a full window, IE to break out from the frameset.
To open in the other frame, the code should be something like this: -
< a href="filename" target="frame name">< img src="buttonname"></a>
if you want to open in the whole window, the Target attribute is set to "top".
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