P.e.t.a.

[Lucias_Clay]

These folks are crazy. You have to read this.

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_773410.html?menu=news.quirkies


And did you know that flies can fly?


http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_773078.html?menu=news.quirkies

[Jason1971]

I am a member of peta...


People Eating Tasty Animals :eek: :) :D ;)


Just a little joke...

Jason

[gracious]

And did you know that flies can fly?

Unbelieveable! It has been bugging me for years, "Do flies really fly or are they just swimming in air?" and now I know. Whew what a relief. I can stop worrying about it now.:D
Now it is bugging me how much they spent to figure it out.:p

As far as P.E.T.A. is concerned, yes I do think they have gone off the deep end. I am for animal rights protection but geez, making a town change its name. Did you see the one where they wanted Wisconsin to change its state's official drink from milk to beer? How do you explain that to the kiddies? I heard once that P.E.T.A. was having some sort of celebration and at this celebration, they were roasting a pig! Go figure. They should hook up with the A.C.L.U. talk about an organization that has gone off the deep end!

[Rick]

Originally posted by Jason1971
I am a member of peta...


People Eating Tasty Animals :eek: :) :D ;)


Just a little joke...

Jason


I'm Also a member of that group .. People Eating Tasty Animals NOT a Joke

One question

How did the Swiss bet out Government to the study ?
I’ll bet one thing for sure.
They didn’t waste as Much $$$$ as the U.S. would have on it :)

[Budfred]

From the scientific dissenting viewpoint:

The research that determined that flies actually fly sounds like the kind of basic research that leads to breakthroughs in aerodynamics, wind resistance theory, physiological mechanics, and a number of other areas. Without basic research like this many of the innovations we enjoy today would never have happened.

[Rick]

B24

Yes a BOXCAR Can Fly :)

F4

Put the correct amount of Force behind it and even a sled can fly

[Fruss Tray Ted]

I can remember studies on B24 boxy things like beetles, esp. June Bugs. Bumblebees too. Tanks with wings...

But P.E.T.A wanting a place like 'Fishkill' to be renamed because it 'sounds' violent is ridiculous! It's not about killing at all! It happens to be a natural phenomena from time to time. Diseases, water conditions, weather, FACTS. They are so shallow they make a spectacle of themselves at almost every bend in the river, uh stream, uh trickle, uh puddle of their every thought. And they gain force with the recruitment of the downward-educating of the general public that watches stupid shows and ads like Budfred's thread on dumb ads...


Bzzzzzzzz BONK! Why do June Bugs have barbs on their legs? Because they're going to fly into something! (Take that to the bank) They need them to hang on and not fall once they do! Or climb high to get airborne. Who needs a study to figure that one out? Just common sense! :D

What do you think a study on P.E.T.A. would find? Brains the size of the Grinch's before his heart started pumping and forethought even worse.

Oh, did you know declawing cat's is bad for their psyche? :rolleyes:

[Mark Miller]

Cat declawing is bad for the cat, it's like pulling your fingernails out. [I'm sensitive about cats]
The reality is that killing and survival is the natural selection of things in the animal world [and maybe ours too]
Anyway I do think p.e.t.a. goes too far on somethings and not far enough about others.
Mark:)

[Fruss Tray Ted]

None of mine have EVER been declawed. But I just met a couple that were and they were so good natured that it shrouded my memory of how my present cat loathes being neutered!

Don't touch me THERE!!! :eek:

Messin with the cat... Messin' with "The King of the Jungle"! Sometimes a Bandaid is nice... :o

Now stand up and be counted, how many of you/us chew fingernails? ;)

[pentachris]

Budfred's right. It was thought for a long time that many insects could not fly, in any aerodynamically known way. A bumblebee is the best example. The wingspan is just to small for the body mass.

I saw a pretty good episode of Scientific American Frontiers about this. It's actually pretty interesting. I found the transcript if anyone wants to read it (http://www.pbs.org/saf/transcripts/transcript904.htm#4). Although you don't get as much out of reading it as you do watching it.

[Fruss Tray Ted]

Hydrodynamically too... I hate the Windows screen of animated fish... Those darned fish don't know how to swim - screensaver... :rolleyes:

Would you mind if I offered a mpeg of real footage to replace the screensaver? Sheesh... Fish just don't 'wiggle' their tail...

This should be in my Pet Peeve's (http://www.pcguide.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9568&highlight=Pet+Peeves) list.

[gracious]

I'v never declawed any of my cats either. Just have a good scratching post and teach them to destroy that instead of your couch and they learn really quickly. My cat Max is a trickster and the only thing he can't do (or simply refuses to do) is to stay out of the kitchen and especially of the counters. He has been water pistoled, scared out of his kitty wits by rocks in coffee can (loud enough to wake the dead) yelling, put outside all night and...there he is in the kitchen! We don't leave food laying around and I don't give Max or our dog Riply any people food, no licking the plates....They are just like little kids LOL:)

[mjc]

put outside all night and...there he is in the kitchen!

Pluz Bre'r Bear and Bre'r Fox, what eva yous do, don't thro me in that ther brier patch......

[gracious]

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LOL @ MJC!!!:D :D :D

[Fruss Tray Ted]

and especially off the counters Take some cardboard, cut it out similar to the shape of the counter, put some '2' sided tape all over it. Place it on the counter sticky side up. Your cat WILL learn...
http://www.freedomyou.com/compulsive_eating/graphics/CAT-CRAZY.GIF

[Mark Miller]

Same with my cat, besides being all over the kitchen and table tops, he now at 5:30 every morning starts knocking things off tables [newspapers mags] till someone gets up and feeds him his soft food. He says this will keep up till we send him to meowie in the catolina islands. He is also a catalic.
Mark:) :) :D

[Rick]

Every Cat My Kids have had in MY House have been Declawed ..
They were however House cats.. ( Not allowed out side) So they didn’t need them

Now that the kids are Gone So Are the Cats..
My bumper sticker still has.

I Love Cat’s Especially Dead Ones

Cats are Like Rats..
Food For the Snake :p

[Mark Miller]

My wife said to mention that our cats favorite soap operas are
"All my kittens" and "Nine lives to live"
His favorite song is "I've got a black tabby woman"
we both need to get a life
Mark:D :D

[computer mutt]

Speaking of P.E.T.A. Did anyone catch the article today, about Ingrid Newkirk, the wacky leader of PETA. She has some final wishes after she departs this world.

Talk about out there...

Animal Rights Leader Wants to Be Barbecued (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=573&e=1&u=/nm/20030425/od_nm/odd_animals_dc)

[Lucias_Clay]

They should hook up with the A.C.L.U. talk about an organization that has gone off the deep end! Oh don't get me started on the A.C.L.U. there are women and children present.
Budfred i like you, you are just too cool:cool: But you just need to lighten up a little sometimes. We aren't against research, and I am sure you are right this may lead to something important some day, it just struck me as funny:p
I think what Ms. Newkirk needs is a nice big juicy medium-rare Ribeye.
Or just a big ole pot of neck bones like we had tonight, and man they were good:D

[gracious]

Take some cardboard, cut it out similar to the shape of the counter, put some '2' sided tape all over it. Place it on the counter sticky side up. Your cat WILL learn...

Say, that sounds like something right up my alley, thanks Fruss Tray Ted, can't be any worse then what I have already tried!:D


( Not allowed out side) So they didn’t need them
Rick, I hope you weren't serious, what would you do if you woke up one morning and all of your nails were ripped out? How would you scratch that itch or be able to scrape price tags off of glasses....I think that some people don't like cats because cats don't like them. Cats are good judges of peoples vibes and know who to stay away from.

[Reid]

Originally posted by Fruss Tray Ted
I hate the Windows screen of animated fish... Those darned fish don't know how to swim - screensaver... :rolleyes:


Take a look at DiveVisons (http://www.atlantis3d.com/) (free trial). Looks realistic to me.

[kayofcircles]

On the serious side, I understand about research leading to new technology and such..and that's fine. But maybe I have gotten too cynical over the years, but it seems to me now that our tax dollars get spent on what appears to be "pork" funnelled to someone's son-in-law at a time that we can't really afford to spend money on things less important. And that's painful for me to say, because I was really hoping to see a colony on the moon in my lifetime, or maybe a trip to Mars..and I know the space program has great difficulty getting funded because it is not top priority. It seems to me that we need Congress to stop acting like a couple of million dollars is just "pocket change" and can be handed out to anyone. Sorry, have started to rant.

On the lighter side..we too have a cat who goes wherever he pleases, including kitchen counters and the table. We have tried everything short of "creaming" the cat, and he is oblivious. He is not declawed, and has some trouble sometimes with claws getting too long or something because he gets his paw "hung" in stuff...but we are AFRAID to try trimming claws! Reminds me of when the vet suggested we brush his teeth. Yeah, right. Read a very funny article I wish I still had about needing "armor" and gloves to bathe a cat. Need more than just BandAids, Fruss!...:D

[YODA74]

Every time PETA complains or I even hear about PETA, Just for the heck of it I go out and kill something and toss it on the Grill and eat it (calms my nerves) There as bad as tree huggers

PETA'S Idea of hunting season

PETA recently bulk purchased blaze orange vests and have been affixing them to live-trapped deer in Youngstown suburbs. According to PETA spokesperson Katie Reese, a total of 405 vests were successfully put into circulation prior to this week, with additional specimens still being caught and vested. Youngtown entrepreneur Guy Lockey, of Guy's Outdoors has spit in the face of PETA by offering rewards for the returned vests this week.

Hunters who can successfully bag a vested deer can pay $5 for random and biggest animal awards. As of today, 308 of the vests had already been recorded as bagged with most of the hunters registering for Mr. Lockey's drawing.

"It's so easy, you can see them coming a mile away" said one first year hunter after checking in his first spike buck. ODNR officials are worried that the poorly thought out plan by PETA might get somebody shot instead of saving the deer. "Hunters have turned their plan upside down, we're just hoping that nobody gets hurt and are hoping that none of the vested animals get tangled in brush" said an unnamed ODNR official. "PETA has really outdone itself this time."

Pretty much shows how intelligent these fanatics are.Peta supporters sure can scatter fast during opening day of Deer season. Especially when they don't know your there

[Budfred]

Kay,

I am on the other side of cynicism about the scientific study issue. It is very easy for someone who doesn't understand what the research is about to boil it down to a soundbite and make it sound stupid and trivial. Some of the most profound scientific discoveries around would sound stupid and trivial when given this treatment. Conservative legislators then use these soundbites to justify cutting funds for basis research that might someday lead to major leaps in technology, medicine and other areas.

Did you hear the one about the group of scientists who managed to milk millions in research funds to study what happens when you shine a light on a bunch of mirrors, they found out that it reflected. They are calling it laser.....

[Fruss Tray Ted]

Bathing a cat?!? You got a death wish??? Heck, it's dangerous enough Giving a pill to your pet (http://www.pcguide.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9471) !!!


Yoda,
Think about it. How much work and skill would be involved to pull off such a stunt. Manpower, traps, a large ruckus attracting attention and so forth. Read THIS (http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/deervest.htm) .

[YODA74]

Thats where I got it from never said it was real...just a point to how stupid and unrealistic these people really are..

[Rick]

Originally posted by gracious

Rick, I hope you weren't serious, what would you do if you woke up one morning and all of your nails were ripped out? How would you scratch that itch or be able to scrape price tags off of glasses....I think that some people don't like cats because cats don't like them. Cats are good judges of peoples vibes and know who to stay away from.

Serious ?
You bet I am,,
The Vet ( specializes in cats Only) sent Me the Bill for all of it.
I even had them Fixed .. NO Surprises wanted around my house

They were not Pulled out .. They were surgically Removed. ( front only on one )

I am Not a cat person .. In Fact I don’t Like any animals in my House
They belong out doors.. BUT if they are going to live in My house.
They will follow My rules or suffer the consequences..
However these cats were of a mind of their own and Loved me ( Still don’t know why)

BTW..
Both Loved getting shampooed . ( No Need to scratch )
From the time they were Kittens
The kids would take them into the shower ..

[Budfred]

"just a point to how stupid and unrealistic these people really are"

By quoting a fiction as though it is fact?? That seems like a rather backwards way to make your point.

I suspect that PETA and similar organizations receive more than their share of such stories, parly because they do absurd things at times and partly because their ideas challenge the way that the mainstream thinks. I agree with them about not harming animals needlessly and not raising animals in conditions that make life torturous. I think they go too far in some things, but the same can be said for those on the other side of the issues and the other side of the political spectrum.

[Rick]

I for one especially Enjoyed the P.E.T.A attempt to stop the hunters in one of our State reserves a few years ago..

By Spiking the roads into and out of the reserve ..
( Driving Nail’s and Spikes into the road surface)

$180.00 each for truck tires .
ALL 4 flat at one time 15 miles from Nowhere

Then they had the nerve to follow hunters into the woods ?

[Budfred]

Another example of someone acting like an idiot:

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/5606015.htm

[YODA74]

Then they had the nerve to follow hunters into the woods ? :D not a real smart move

[Rick]

Make it easy for the Hunters.
That area is a RIFLE allowed area :)

30-06
Reach Out and Touch your Friendly Little Peta pal :D

[goober]

I'm with Budfred 100%. If the government, or any other entity, is going to spend money, I would rather it be on research that could be useful over stupid pet projects for the politicians home state.

One of the favorite quoted waste of tax dollars is the Ketchup (or catsup if you prefer!) experiment. The problem I have is I've never once heard WHY they were studying how it flowed! Would we care that they spent a few hundred grand on it if it could say, tell us how lava flows move through certain areas?

Could you imagine today, had antibiotics not been invented, if you heard the government was giving grants of a million dollars to study mold? :p

I prefer the humane society to PETA, but they're still better then others.