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hawk7771us
04-29-2003, 06:13 AM
http://www.xs4all.nl/~egbg/counterscript.html check it out

pentachris
04-29-2003, 08:46 PM
That's great, hawk, thanks for the link!

I printed a few copies for home, and showed it to my boss. She actually got a telemarketing call at work from Dell this afternoon. She kind of got tickled as she tried to work her way through the counterscript, but she did find out that at least one Dell employee recommends Colgate toothpaste! :D

Lucias_Clay
04-29-2003, 08:59 PM
The govenor of Mississippi has signed legelature to create a state law providing for a no-call list. Any company that wants to do business in mississippi has to abide by it and pay for the list and frequent updates. Or face heavy fines.

Budfred
04-29-2003, 09:38 PM
If it is anything like the new law in Minnesota, it is so full of holes that you could drive a Hummer through it. I just keep getting myself placed on no call list and I don't answer calls that don't give their phone number...

goober
04-30-2003, 04:43 PM
We have a no call list here in Indiana. Seems to be working okay.

Onnly answer them when I'm bored and feel like goofing on 'em :rolleyes: :D

Jhorner1
04-30-2003, 09:54 PM
The link is hilarious. We have a no call list in PA also. Since signing up there has been some improvement, but there are still loopholes.

hawk7771us
04-30-2003, 09:58 PM
i believe we have a no call list in mo too . http://lists.gpick.com/

mjc
05-01-2003, 01:57 AM
Well this state is too friendly to them....

State to help idled employees of Applied Card

By Paul Wilson
Staff Writer

BECKLEY — Mike Hawkins held his 2-year-old son, Trey, in the hallway at the Raleigh County Armory on Thursday. Trey was sound asleep. His father had barely slept in two days.

Mike Hawkins had been a stay-at-home dad. But Wednesday morning, his wife, Stephanie...

most of the office’s former employees from the call center were looking for answers Thursday at one of two informational meetings the state hastily put together following Wednesday’s surprise announcement. State workers told the employees about available training, job opportunities, resume writing and counseling services. Two more meetings are scheduled for today.

“I understand you received some devastating news just yesterday,” said Tina White, project director of Region 1 Employer Services/Rapid Response. “Our goal is to see you re-enter the workforce at a comparable wage or maybe even better.”

Applied Card President Tim Lehmann announced closings in Beckley and Ashland, Ky., on Wednesday. More than 1,000 workers lost their jobs. The company still employs a total of 2,700 workers in three cities, including Huntington.

Since the announcement, two companies in the area have said they have openings. Representatives from Global Contact Services, a telemarketing service with offices in Mount Hope, Oak Hill and Summersville, gave former Applied Card employees applications outside the armory. Global Contact Services focuses on finance and insurance and has been in business for 14 months.

Brian Helton, a vice president with Global Contact, said his company wants to hire 250 more employees in the next three weeks.

“That’s a great employee base, and they’re excellently equipped for what we do,” Helton said in a phone interview.

Another company, Telespectrum Worldwide Inc., in Beckley, is looking to hire about 90 people, Mayor Emmett Pugh said.

City officials said Applied Card was among the top-10 largest contributors to B&O taxes. When the office opened in May 2001, Pugh gave company officials a key to the city.

“With them closing, that leaves a little bit of a void,” Pugh said. “It definitely has an impact on the workers here and in four or five counties around this area as well.”

kayofcircles
05-01-2003, 11:34 AM
Sorry..you know me..but this is related. Saw a clip on the BBC news last night about spam. They said there was something like 50 billion spams a day, that it costs businesses millions of dollars to block the spam, that spam was 50 per cent of all email...and here's the part that blows me away. They said that all that spam could be traced back to approx 180 individuals! They put that figure..180..on the screen, so it wasn't just me mis-hearing the figure. Is that even possible for 180 puters to produce that much spam everyday??:eek:

Budfred
05-01-2003, 11:48 AM
Sure, any one SPAMmer will send out millions a day by him/herself. They use huge mailing lists and bulk mailing programs. It doesn't cost them anymore to send out 100 than it does to send out 1 million, so they don't care that it is costing the world economy a fortune to screen them out.

It works too. If I send out 100 million SPAM messages offering to make you rich if you only send me $10 for my miracle business plan and .1% send me $10, I have a million dollars in my pocket....

mjc
05-01-2003, 12:13 PM
It isn't 180 computers, it is 180 low down sleazy, make snakes look like a noble life form, scum sucking, excrement of humanity individuals that are responsible for the bulk of the SPAM....

I will provide more details in a new thread later..

gracious
05-01-2003, 06:56 PM
I don't know what is worse, pop up ads or stupid spam. The thing that worries me is all these people who don't realize that all that crap in their emails are scams, no different then what you might get in regular mail. How can they possibly track these scammers? How can they actually trace them all?? Quite irritating and it doesn't do a dang bit of good to "unsubscribe", once they start coming they stay. :mad:

Budfred
05-01-2003, 09:08 PM
Actually unsubscribing is very helpful.... to the SPAMmers. They can then confirm that you exist and have an active email address which makes selling their list to the next SPAMmer that much more lucrative. So help out a poor unfortunate scum of the earth and unsubscribe every chance you get...:D :D

kayofcircles
05-02-2003, 12:40 PM
Totally love your response, mjc, and await further comments with great anticipation!...:D

JuhaH.
05-02-2003, 01:26 PM
In Finland we often get offers for newspapers and magazines. Conservations are stopped immediately, whenever I start selling the marketeers the same products. My wife owns a kiosk and, in fact, we often do sell the same papers!

HeadachesAbound
05-02-2003, 02:47 PM
I have decided to begin my own spamming business. I just can't turn down the opportunity to make $1 million dollars tax free from people who just don't get it. My message will be something like the following:

=========================================

Subject : This is spam.
Body:

Thank you for wasting your valuable time to read my junk mail. This is a spam message and is nothing more than garbage, but wait, don't stop reading now.

I have a proven method to make you money*. For only $10 US Dollars you can find out how to be a millionaire.

Please send checks or money orders to: My name, My address {NOTE TO SELF: OPEN SPECIAL PO BOX FOR THIS ONLY}

*There is no guarantee that you will make money. Total income is dependent on IQ of recipient. Your $10 is considered a taxable GIFT.

***To Unsubscribe***
Reply to this message with "I'm a sucker" as the subject line. Your email will then be removed from our list and sold to the highest bidder so that you can get more spam.
********************

==================================================

I think that would allow me to not only spam and get away with it but also several opportunities to make money. Subject line clearly states the purpose of the message. Message is non-deceptive. All money is considered a GIFT and is small enough to avoid the need to report it to the tax man.

Anybody see any flaws in this plan? If not, I'm gonna go home and write that email harvesting bot.

Budfred
05-02-2003, 04:03 PM
HeadachesAbound,

That sure sounds like a winner to me, except for the part about the taxes, I am pretty sure that Uncle Sam will want his cut, but you should still be able to make enough to retire.:rolleyes: :D :D

Ironically, it might actually work. There was a blurb on the news a few days ago about a woman looking for a job that posted an ad saying that she had no skills, was difficult to get along with and basically had bad work habits - apparently the job offers came rolling in.:eek:

HeadachesAbound
05-02-2003, 07:56 PM
I'm sure I could find a way around the tax thing. Just a matter of the wording to ensure that it is completely legal. Of course I think that every law in existence provides for the loop holes I mentioned.