View Full Version : So where is the "site problem" area???
kayofcircles
04-29-2003, 11:13 AM
I've been noticing the "View new" search here (or however that's worded now) is not always showing me the "new" posts since I was last here. I save links to threads I am watching, and will check them and see "new" posts and they weren't on the "new" list, but since I do that anyway..wasn't a big problem. However, I just went off to Google for awhile, searching for help on something, and came back to find myself "logged off." ??? I never log off. So, are we having problems here again..or have I got a problem???:)
I know this is not the right place to post this, but I checked carefully, and it's not an Announcement (I know better than that!), it's not a Suggestion, it's not something for a "read only" forum..so where do we put these questions now?
Budfred
04-29-2003, 12:47 PM
Actually I think it would fit under Suggestions because of the description that goes with that heading, it is for site issues.
I have noticed some odd things as well. It hasn't been consistent, so I figured it was just a temporary thing, but if others are experiencing it, it could be more. Anyone else??
YODA74
04-29-2003, 01:12 PM
not having a prob. with getting logged off as far a the View new posts
I have noticed that if you do go to another site come back and click on it again there are no new posts...
also if i go to a new post and then come back to view new posts they have dissapeared again.. also few other slite front page bugs concerning new posts also newpost yellow if i click on the post and reply to it go to another site come back and it still is showing the same post as new...*shrug shoulders*
setoguro
04-29-2003, 07:55 PM
I've logged on when I'm using W98se then I'll switch to Linux and go back to the PCguide. I don't see my name there as being logged on. I can log on and off then when I get back to using W98se the next day I find that I'm still logged in from the day before.
Mark Miller
04-29-2003, 08:06 PM
No problems here though sometimes a message will be double posted in my mail box.
How long this going on Kay?
Fruss Tray Ted
04-29-2003, 09:00 PM
Kay,
Did this only happen once recently? Did you accidentally turn your 'Cookies Manager' into a 'Cookie Monster'??? :) For some strange quirk in the time the newest software has been implemented for this site, I have been logged off maybe twice. No big deal unless I can't find my 'P'word, which if the case turns me into screaming the 'F'word!!! :eek:
I tried the 'View New Posts' quite a while ago and reverted back to browsing the site normally other than when replying. I choose 'Open in New Window' for replies mostly. Either way and also other ways I've tried, the yellow 'haven't read these yet' posts dissappear. But the bold 'last posted today's' remain most of the time unless you cross over beyond midnite, upon which then you then need to pay attention to what time you started browsing, and look at the time the post was entered. Again no big deal...
As far as logging off, setoguro, if you leave the site to reboot but didn't log off, the cookie is no longer active although still on your system but it's in 98SE's data (which is inactive on a dual boot) when you are using Linux so it is not being detected by the site, therefore you are not logged in. If you had ICS and 2 pc's, of course you could see both. Are you not logged in or similar in Linux?
Mark Miller
04-29-2003, 09:16 PM
Ftt,
I have no idea what you just said
Mark:D :D :D
kayofcircles
04-30-2003, 10:26 AM
Yes, Fruss, the logged off problem was only yesterday..and that was the first time in a very long time. I too have only gotten logged off about twice since the new software, and I never got around to changing password so had to hunt yesterday for the complicated "puter given" password given originally, and then..sob..entered it wrong the first time! One could change one's password...hhhmm??
I come here in the mornings, and it will say on first page.."you were here yesterday morning at such and such a time" and then what time it is as I enter the site. I click on "View New Posts" and, up until recently (approx two or three weeks), it would show me a list of all posts since I was here the day before. But on several occasions in the last few weeks, I have clicked on my draft list of topics, and found new posts I hadn't read..and those topics were not on the "new" list. Another strange thing is that if I post a reply to something on the "new" list, when I go back to "new" list, it has put the topic I just replied to at the top of the list. Now..I have new puter with same browser set at exact same settings..but could be my puter on that part. I have that Refresh thing set where Charles said to set it long ago...think "automatically refresh" or something. The site was completely down to me about a week ago..got nothing but "can't open this page" on everything I clicked, but other sites working fine. But could have been one of those "high traffic" flukes or something else.
Anyway, sorry to be a bother. Just wanted to ask..could very well have been just a fluke...or could very well just be my "ancient" browser.
Budfred
04-30-2003, 10:51 AM
I don't think it is just your browser since I have had a problem with the "View New Posts" a few times too. There have been times when I know there are new posts, but it won't show them to me. I have had to log out and view all posts to get caught up.
I have also had a couple of times recently that I was logged in, but not active for about 30 minutes and when I came back I had been logged out.
kayofcircles
04-30-2003, 11:12 AM
As Yoda said above, one doesn't go "too far" away without losing the list..so I am very careful not to go more than two or three pages off the "new" list. But, this reminded me of something truly annoying that happened to me last week. I posted one of my long winded replies (sigh), and then thought of a link that I wanted to include in reply, so went to Google, and then link, copied link, then used Back button to get back to my Reply window...and my entire post was gone, no text, nada...just the Reply window. I could have avoided that by duplicating window, and should have, but forgot that day.
The threadview, view new posts, etc are all "session" cookies...so they will expire either when you close your browser or it sits inactive long enough for the session timer to expire.
All servers have a timer running from when you connect until soemtime afte you leave. This timer is for the purpose of dropping inacative connections. So if you sit a the mainpage eventually the timer will expire and you could get the forum software thinking you haven't logged in becuase what your browser cahce has for cookies and what the site sees are not in sync. Often, in cases like this, if you close your browser and immmediately come back, you will not have to log in again.
The password cookie/login info is a permanent cookie (well at leat for 1 year) and it should get updated every login. But then again, sometimes it gets out of sync, or the server burps and loses track of who/when...
Budfred
05-02-2003, 12:31 AM
Kay,
I just had one of those odd things happen. I logged in and went to check View New Posts. I noticed that there was one thread I had responded to, but I had not received an email notice for it even though I had for another more recent post. Strange....
Also, I just noticed in trying to find this thread that it isn't in Suggestions. I thought it was so when I made the comment about it being in the right place, that is what I was referring to. You were right that After Hours isn't the place to talk about site issues.... Oh well...
kayofcircles
05-02-2003, 11:35 AM
Budfred: Your first post above was on target..this does belong in Suggestions. I went back and looked again after your post, saw the description part about "questions about the site" or something similar. The new categories are much better than the previous ones, because it was dang near impossible sometimes to decide whether one had a "hardware" or a "software" problem in previous..because most new things for a puter (like CD writers and such) are a combination. But, it is still difficult sometimes to decide where it is proper to post a question (particularly for newbies), and I don't pay much attention to "where" it is posted. That's why I am dependent on the "new" list..because if I haven't saved a link to a thread in my draft, the odds on me finding it again are remote.
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