Small Office network

[funhousegroup]

Greetings all.
Was wondering if anyone could give me a clue on this small network setup. The network consists of 3 pcs hooked into a switch and then out through A high speed gateway for high speed internet acces. There is no domain. Just Workgroup. 2 of the PCs can see each other and can print to each other but the third can not see any PCs in the workgroup except itself and the other 2 can not see the third. All the Pcs are in the same workgroup and all can use the internet. I belive the one in question has approptiate rights. The account used to log on to it has admin rights on itself but dont know if that is network also.
I dont really know what else to check.
Thanks,
FH

[classicsoftware]

Is the workgroup name the same on all three PC's.

Do you have the appropraite network prootocols installed???

What is the OS you are using.

Can you ping????

Need more information

[funhousegroup]

Yes all three computers are in the same workgroup and the one in question can ping tthe others but can not browse to ro from others. They are all connected to the same router and highspeed internet. They guy who set up the network did not leave the manual for the hardware or admin pass words for the router and I can not reach hime.
FH

[classicsoftware]

Right Click on Network Neighborhhod or My Network Places

Click on Find a computer

Type in the IP address of one of the machines

See of you can find it that way.

Please post back with your results

[skhips]

what are all 3 machines ip addresses and subnet masks as this could be the problem (and workgroup name)

[classicsoftware]

SKHIPS:

Since he appears to have a router and can get on-line and only has a problem browsing locally, I think his IP and subnet masks are probably OK.

There may be a problem with the protocol's installed or netbios over TCPIP may be disabled.

[skhips]

Yes but is there a possibility that all three machines have the routers ip address as a default gateway but they are not all on thhe same subnet, therefore one machine not being able to be seen by the other two.

SORRY FUNOUSE: do not display your ip address as it could be a security issue but can you tell us your subnet mask and we can tell you which parts of yuor ip address should be the same.


:)

[yawningdog]

If you can ping the other machine's ip address but not the name, then it sounds like your problem has to do with DNS. ip config all machines and make sure the DNS server is the same for all 3.

[funhousegroup]

Sorry for not replying sooner. I was out of town.
I belive the machines all use a default gateway and individual IPs.
They are all in the same workgroup . 1 and 2 of 3 can comunicate internally and through the gateway to the internet wheras #3 can only semm to go through to the internet. The router is a wired Gigafast 4 or 5 port. It connects to the internet through the countys wireless highspeed.\
When I was on location there was no documentation and the guy that set up the network left without giving the admin password to anyone. Worst case scenerio would be reseting the router and starting over.
Thanks
FH

[classicsoftware]

The router is not the problem.

Please post back and answer my original question.

Can you find the machine by searching for it by IP address.

If the machine in question has an ip address of 192.168.1.1.
and you search for it in the find a comouter uder my network places, what happens???

Please advise and do NOT post any real IP addresses

[funhousegroup]

Ok. I will post back here with details as soon as I am able to get onsite and check everything again. May not be till oafter the holiday.
I will try pinging the machine from the others in the work group.
Anything else to try

[funhousegroup]

OK. Now this is really driving me nuts. I can go in and search for the computer under Entire Network/Search/IP Address and they come up as the IP. I can also ping the computer in question. However Earlier today I uninstalled Zone Alarm from the Win 2k Computer in question and rebooted and then the other win2k computer/server could see it fine. Then I Installed an HP printer on the Other Win 2k Box/Server(The network is just a workgroup patched into a router for highspeed internet) and as soon as I rebooted I am back to not being able to see the original Win2k computer in question and the win98 box that was also in the workgroup working fine is now asking for a password when I try to hit the win2k server box and I dont know what it is.
The router config all seems to be fine and all the PCs are using the right DNS etc. I am thinking that there are a couple of things in win2k that I am missing. After I installed the printer on the server I was prompted to install aditional driver for PCs with other OSs to be able to just install the printer over the network(like the 98 box). I was then promted for the Win 2k server disk wich I did not have so I cancled. I dont think this has anything to do with it but I want to be thourough.
Please help.
fuNhOuSeGrouP

[classicsoftware]

The only thing I can think of is that net-bios over tcp/ip is not enabled.

It doesnt matter.

You can set the router to assign specific IP addresses and then you can map drives and printers with IP address instead of the name

[funhousegroup]

Well that might do but do you think that I might try adding the netbios protocol to the rest(File and print, TPC/IP, Client for) and see if it works. I tryed that for the server only. Would I have to add to all clients.
ALso. What about the password required to browse the server box? On the other 2k box I can specify the user and pass and get on but with the 98 box I can not specify user, thus can not hit the server/
Thanks again for all your help. Anything is apppreciated.
FH

[classicsoftware]

Don't confure NetBUI with Net Bios over TCP/ip.

What are you trying to accomplish??

Just to refresh my memory.

Please let me know what machine is having trouble browsing the network.

If it is a Windows 98 box that cannot browse the network than you will have to create a user on each W2K computer that has the same name and password. You will be REQUIRED to log into the Win98 box with the same user name and password that you set up on the Win2K computers.

[funhousegroup]

Well Classic. I guess the main problem at this point is that I am prompted for a password everytime I try to access the Win2k server( Weather from 2k or 98) Whereas I was not before. I would like to set it up so that I am not prompted. Can I just take the existing username and pass from the clients and add them to the users on the server?
Also There is one machine that is still not seen by the others(Win2k). I can only ping it or search by ip. You can imagine the inconvenience.
Thanks, I will do what I can to get it going but I hate walking inot someone elses peicemeal job.
Funhouse

[classicsoftware]

What that means is there is no account/password on the "server"

Go to the server.

Add a user called classic with a password of classic.

Go to ANY workstation. If it is Win2K you will have also create a username of classic and password of claasic. If it is WIN98 you should be able to just type it into the login bax at startup. Login with a username of classic and a password of classic.

Can you access the server w/o being prompted for a password? The answer should be yes and if it is:

1) Delete the user classic.

2) Go to the "server" and create a user for each person who will log into the server. Set the security/permission level accoringly.

3) Go EACH workstation and create a matching account for the one that appears on the server.

You should now be able to log into the server w/o a password.

[funhousegroup]

Cool Classic. I will give it a shot. I guess I should end this thred so others have a chance at the top.
Thanks, Funhouse

[classicsoftware]

Don't end the thread until we know it works. You can stay at the top of the heap as log as you need to.

[funhousegroup]

OK. I got a chance to go back on site today and reesolved most of the issues. I set up accounts on the server, Identical to the accounts the client machines used locally. Now I can see the shares on the server without passwords.
I can also hit the machine in question(machine #3 XP machine)jafter adding NetBios.From the server I see it by going to Workgroup and from the 98 client machine by searching for it under Start/Find/Computer and then browse it. ButMachine #3 still can not see the 98 Machine. It can ping it but not see it when searched for under Workgroup or/ find computers.
I am pretty tierd so I hope this is legible.
See ya, FH

[funhousegroup]

OK. I got a chance to go back on site today and reesolved most of the issues. I set up accounts on the server, Identical to the accounts the client machines used locally. Now I can see the shares on the server without passwords.
I can also hit the machine in question(machine #3 XP machine)jafter adding NetBios.From the server I see it by going to Workgroup and from the 98 client machine by searching for it under Start/Find/Computer and then browse it. ButMachine #3 still can not see the 98 Machine. It can ping it but not see it when searched for under Workgroup or/ find computers.
I am pretty tierd so I hope this is legible.
See ya, FH

[funhousegroup]

OK. I got a chance to go back on site today and reesolved most of the issues. I set up accounts on the server, Identical to the accounts the client machines used locally. Now I can see the shares on the server without passwords.
I can also hit the machine in question(machine #3 XP machine)jafter adding NetBios.From the server I see it by going to Workgroup and from the 98 client machine by searching for it under Start/Find/Computer and then browse it. ButMachine #3 still can not see the 98 Machine. It can ping it but not see it when searched for under Workgroup or/ find computers.
I am pretty tierd so I hope this is legible.
See ya, FH

[classicsoftware]

Can you find it if you earch by IP address??????

[funhousegroup]

I can ping it but I can not search by IP address through
Computers search in Windows.