Death of computer? Oh no. Help me

[killercow]

Ok I installed the epox mobo and start everything up. at the top it says pheonix and the bios name ad numbers under that:
03/05/2003 For nForce2-ST Chipset

Memory Frequency is at 133 MHz (DDR 226)
Memory Dual Channel Enabled
Primary Master : WDC WD400BB-00DEA0 05.03E05
Primary Slave : None
Secondary Master : DVD-ROM DDU1621 VER S2.9
Secondary Slave : SONY CD-RW CRX215E1 SYS2

Primary IDE channel no 80 conductor cable installed

Floppy disk(s) fail (40)





==========================Magic Health=========================
CPU FAN:4440 RPM ***insert all the other goodies of tempertures, volts, and speeds here***
==================================================
=============
Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP
03/05/2003-nVidia-nForce-6A61BPAAC-00


**Then I press F1...:**
|The box at the top is cut off I cant see it all |
| Pri. Slave Disk : NONE DDR DIMM at Rows : 2 0 1|
| Sec. Master Disk : DVD,ATA 33 |
| Sec. Slave Disk : CD-RW,ATA 33 |
|_________________________________________________
__________|

Pri Master Disk HDD S.M.A.R.T capability .... Disabled


PCI device listing ...
Bus no. Device No. Func No. Vendor/Device Class Device Class IRQ
__________________________________________________
___________________
0 1 1 10DE 0064 0C05 SMBus Cntrlr NA
0 2 0 10DE 0067 0C03 USB1.0/1.1 OHCICTL NA
**and so on and so forth**



Verifying DMI Pool Data ..........

**then after about 5-6 seconds**
We apologize for the inconvenience, but windows did not start successfully. A recent hardware or software change might have caused this.

BLAH BLAH BLAH
-Safe Mode
-Safe Mode with Networking
-Safe Mode with Command Prompt

Last known good configuration (your most recent settings that worked)

Start windows normally

**this has happened before when I install new hardware and i hit start windows noramlly**
Then for a split second a light blue screen comes up that resembles the one that comes up when you pop in the Windows XP cd and run it as forst boot in D:. I cant tell though it wont pause fast enough. And then it restarts the computer. Any help on this? why can't I start my computer? How do I fix this?
THanks
KC

Ok now a new problem:
I was tweaking things in the bios and accidentally think I set the CPU bus speed to 200 compared to the normal 133:eek: . So when the computer restarted and I was to go in to fix it nothing comes up on the screen and the mobo speaker beeps wildly like a siren.:eek: Any help is there like a BIOS restore?:( :eek: :(

[Fruss Tray Ted]

:eek:

That includes video and sound too... :D
;)

What we ought to do is disable/revoke your video drivers, sound, Atapi (Cd Rom stuff), heck, Why doesn't "Geico" offer insurance in the case of people like you?!? :eek: ;) :D

Just kidding, my name isn't Eye Spy or BG,


Change battery or check voltage
Some D/L's can mess things up
MS wants to know your every move
So do tons of others...

Failing 'Floppy Disk 40's' are most often cable connections flipped the wrong way or not fully inserted, things of this sort.

Thing is, to concentrate on when and what the FIRST boot problem is onscreen... Solve it. Then move on... Become more methodical, narrow down, fine tune,,, Speakin of a 'Fine Tune',, I gotta change what's in the CD-ROM, BRB... ;) Ok, Drivin' all night, my hands wet on the wheel...

[killercow]

Great help and everything.....but:

So when the computer restarted and I was to go in to fix it nothing comes up on the screen and the mobo speaker beeps wildly like a siren
Meaning the screen is blank and it sounds like the cops are coming for me. Also I can't turn off the computer using the on/off switch, however, i can reset it.

[Steve]

Hey killer',

I'm not an AMD kinda guy, but from what I've read that high/low siren sound is a signal of overheating.

By setting it to 200mhz you overclocked the CPU. I hope there was no damage to the CPU. But I also talked to a guy who said he got that siren sound when his RAM went bad. It's possible that the short period of overclocking damaged the RAM. If you can come up with a known good stick, you might want to try it out.

So from this Intel fan, I'd say check that BIOS for correct settings, check for all heat related issues and try some different RAM.

That's the best I could come up with...;)

[john5211]

Hi,

If I understand your most pressing problem correctly, you accidentally changed something in the BIOS and can't get back in to fix it. If this is the case, have you tried looking around on the board (or in the instruction manual) for a jumper that resets the BIOS to the system defaults? If you can find one of these, and you haven't hurt any of the hardware, then you should at least be back to trying to fix the rest of the problems :).

Speaking of some of the other problems, when you installed the new motherboard did you uninstall the old MB drivers ... if not, you might want to look <a href='http://www.windowsreinstall.com/install/other/motherboard/'>here</a> and read up about changing motherboards when using the same hardware (I think they list one or two methods that you can still use ...).

Good Luck!

John

[Paleo Pete]

1. Going to move this one, it would probably be more at home in a troubleshooting forum.

2. First thing to do is reset BIOS, try to get CPU speed back to default.

[Sylvander]

1. You had a problem with your FDD which you pressed F1 to bypass, which was ok. You needed to fix that or go into BIOS Setup and specify that there is no A: drive so it will be ignored.

2. Your real problem was at :
“Verifying DMI Pool Data “
“windows did not start successfully”
“A recent hardware or software change might have caused this.”
“this has happened before when I install new hardware”

Read this http://www.qdi.nl/support/dmipool.htm

When trying to "undo the hardware change".
Try removing all peripherals and adaptor cards except the keyboard and video card/monitor, then re-connect one item and restart to see the effect; add another and repeat etc.

This, of course, is after you've followed Paleo Pete's advice.
I hope you don't mind if I add:
When you discover you're in a [metephorical] minefield:
don't run the hell out of it;
stop
think
and don't do ANYTHING [unless you know it can do no harm] until you believe you know how to get out of it safely.

Does that seem like a wise strategy?

[malcore]

First, is this all a new build, no prior installation of Windows?

I mean, are you insatlling a new mobo on a previously configured machine?


Second, like FTT and Sylvander said, check your floppy cable, and it's bios settings.

Third, I noticed in your other thread that you have a Western Digital HDD. Check the jumpers on it. If you have it set to master, change that to single or no jumper. The WD drives can be finicky about jumper settings when they are alone on an IDE channel. Also make sure you are using an 80 conductor cable.


If this is an attempt to install a new mobo on a system which has Windows already installed, I strongly recommend a new clean install of Windows.

Edit- Sylvander, yes, that seems like quite a wise strategy.;)

[killercow]

reinstall wondiws??? eek! then all my FPS games loose their stuff and I have reinstalled windows 6 times over the last 6 months...don't ask. Ill try wahts above and see if I can save my stuff. And this is an upgrade mobo from my K7S5A not the pro version.

[Sylvander]

Does that mean you have no way of making backups?

That's like driving in a car with bad brakes and no reverse gear.

Or a fighter pilot with no parachute.

YIKES !

[killercow]

WEll since I cant get into XP ... yes... and from above someone said I might have damaged my ram it still says I have 786MB ram

[killercow]

Also an 80 conductor cable? Is that just a standard IDE cableor what?
I managed to reset the bios and I believe I blew my stick of 256MB ram but the 512 is ok. I was going to sell the 256 anyway. I have stuff on the screen and everything on to next step.

[malcore]

Hey killer , look at this page (http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCable80-c.html) . Charles (ixl) describes them quite well with a couple of pictures for reference. ;)

Edit- you may not have blown that stick of RAM. This is a dual channel mobo and you need to use identical sticks of RAM, same size, same speed.

[Sylvander]

I think the 80 conductor cable is necessary for ATA 100 HDD's and better.

[Fruss Tray Ted]

Ok, No more 'kid'ding around I promise chuckle chuckle.

Is there any way you can return your pc to it's original configuration with the older mobo and make backups then install the new one, format your drive and reinstall your OS and other games etc.? This is really what needs to be done along with getting the settings right with your new mobo.

I can't begin to determine how many times I read through my mobo's manual before I finally took the leap and began making settings to what I thought they should be. I've only done the one 'from scratch build' so far, the rest have been existing propietary upgrades and such. Got one newer one to build but have been too tired to mess with it once I get home after all the overtime I've been working (That and fishing, camping, band gigs).... The hours are long but the paycheck is nice... Anyway,

An 80 wire cable is easily identified by the 3 colors on the connectors. Blue for the mobo, grey and black for slave and master respectively. Could you would see it too in the wires if a 40 and an 80 are side by each aye? :)

Now with your newer motherboard, have you tried the reset to default route yet? And you didn't mention if you changed processor or are using a faster (like DDR) RAM so we need to take a step back. Please describe what the system is that you are trying to assemble. And it would be best if you only use one stick of RAM for now. Possibly a barebones boot too till we can smooth it to that point at least, then venture further? :p uh, farther? :confused: umm, beyond :cool: and introduce one peripheral at a time.

Though I've done it a few times with 95 and 98, putting an old hardrive in a newer pc as you are sort of doing, can work but it seems with XP this is more of an issue and introduces problems so you will eventually need to do a fresh install of everything so get backing up soon as you can.

Alright I'm out of breath for the moment (weezer wheezing) :eek:

[killercow]

OK the system is the same as the old one just with a few changes:

EPOX EP-8RDA+ nVidia nForce 2 chipset
AMD athalon XP 1800+ 1.533 clock speed
512MB DDR PC2700 (took out the 256)
WD 40 gig hdd
2 optical drives
floppy
GeForce3 Ti200 64mb AGP
Wireless LAN/DSL Linksys
350 watt psu

The CD drives (2) each were connected to a single 80 conductor and the HD to a 40. I believe before the mobo switch the CDs were on the 40 and the HD to the 80. The mobo came with an 80 and I'll swap that. It also came with a new floppy cable. I believe the one I have now is faulty I tried it on this computer and it also didn't work.

[killercow]

Ok, after many attempts to fix the floppy .... failure is the outcome so I set in the bios that I do not have a floppy drive and continued. Next I popped in the WinXP CD and started set-up of XP. It asked if I wanted to install XP or to repair, I hit install. Then it detected the former XP and asked I would like to repair. That I did say to repair. Apparently the first "repair" doesn't change the system's settings like I want to do.

**elapsed time: 10 minutes**
It begins to install windows? oh well might as well ... I will post outcome in 45 minutes or so when it's done.

[killercow]

SUCCESS!!! WinXP was installed without loosing ANY files. All the mobo drivers were installed and everything. Only 1 problem still remains the floppy.