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[ErnieK]

Well it has taken me about 6 weeks of cursing, swearing and threatening to throw both computers through the window but I have finally manage to set up a network with XP Pro and 98se. I was able to transfer files back and forwards today.

But have a couple of questions, so will post one at a time.

First. When I link from one to the other I can only see each computer a list of "Folders" listing the hard drives / partitions. How, if possible, do I manage to see the desktop of my other computer?

Set up is through a "Netgear" EN2005 5 port 100/10 hub. I am using TCP/IP as the process and NOT netbeui.

If you need more information let me know.

[classicsoftware]

In order to remote control the deskstop of the other computer you will need a remote control software paqckage such as pc-Anywhere or a similar program. XP may have this included, I am not an XP guru

[pave_spectre]

XP has that remote assistance thing which can allow someone to look at and/or control your computer remotely even over the web. I have heard that there is a patch/fix/upgrade(?) for 98 that will allow a 98 computer to utilise the XP remote assistance function. I dont however recall where i saw that.

[Ghost_Hacker]

Don't forget that the desktop folder is in the profile of a user. The profile of any user is located in the "documents and settings" folder. Of course, you'll need to create a share that can access this folder first or use the built in "Admin" share. For instance, if winxp is installed on the C drive of the remote computer and you are an admin, use "\\ipaddress\c$" to access the C drive of the remote computer. From there you can drill down to the desktop folder of the user your interested in.

In Windows 98 the desktop folder is in the "windows" directory. Just create a a share to access it.

Hope this helps :)

[ErnieK]

Classic
I will look up PC-Anywhere

pave
I thought that remote would also allow someone on theinternet to access my computer?

GH
Quite simply :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :rolleyes:

Could you possibly downgrade your explanation to suit a complete idiot:p

At the moment when I burrow down to 98 desktop (or the reverse) all I see is a list of folders -

(from host XP)to 98 C:\Windows/Desktop then when I click onto the desktop folder I just see other folders that are sitting o the desktop. If there are no folders sitting on dt then I see nothing

[sleddog]

Rather than PC Anywhere use VNC. It is extremely good, and free:

http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/

Install it on the 98 machine, then from the start menu select "Run VNC (app mode)". That starts the VNC server. You will be prompted to set a password.

In the folder where VNC was installed you'll find a file "vncviewer.exe". That is a standalone viewer program. Copy it to your XP machine, anywhere (say, 'Program Files').

Next, on the XP machine run (double-click) the vncviewer.exe file. Enter the IP of the 98 machine. Then the password which you set.

Presto, remote desktop of the 98 machine.

[ErnieK]

Cheers Sleddog
I forgot (who says old age comes on its own) I forgot that I already have TightVNC and ODS connector. They came on a magazine CD a few months ago.

Thanks for reminding me and telling me how to set it up.

Now all I have to do is remember where I stored it.

[Ghost_Hacker]

Quite simply .....

Sorry :) hmmmmm seems like the "remote" desktop solution using VNC is the way to go. ( I forgot about that one too)


My way would just allow you to get access to a file or folder that was sitting on another persons desktop, but thats about it. You wouldn't be able to see and use icons like "my computer" or anything.

Anyway, VNC is much better :) Here's a link to the VNC site:

http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/

[sleddog]

TightVNC is a variation of VNC. I had some problems with TightVNC, but I've never had an issue with the original VNC, which I've used a lot.

[Paul Komski]

Has anyone tried Netmeeting on a LAN? It would provide the remote desktop that is required.

http://www.meetingbywire.com/NetMeeting101.htm

[ErnieK]

Thanks guys
I will have a bash with Tight VNC and see what happens, if I have probs with it I will go for VNC its self.

Paul
Would net meeting allow access to the actual desktop? giving acces to shortcuts etc? Or is this not just for talking (typing/Audio/Video) over home network as well as Internet?

[Paul Komski]

Have only used Netmeeting to connect over the internet myself - but one of the functions is to utilise the remote desktop, which enables you to see and access and manipulate another pc's desktop as if it was one's own - (control its mouse, etc, etc).

I imagine it must be possible to do this on a LAN - but I don't know how you would go about configuring the connection to the IP Address of another pc on a LAN. Once the connection is established it should work just the same as over the internet.

One of the reasons I haven't ever configured it to connect by IP address is that it has been easier (over the internet) to first establish an MSN-messenger session (with my non-techie sister) and then transfer over to Netmeeting.

EDITING ADDS:-
Have just tried it with two pcs running WinME and Netmeeting 3.01 and it works just fine. Both must be running Netmeeting then just "telephone" the IP address, 10.0.0.1 in my case, and a message pops up on the other pc and a "telephone" ringing noise is heard from the speakers. Once joined-up you can chat, talk, whiteboard etc and share the desktop after requesting it and having the request granted by the user at the other pc.

Quite cool - and free! :D

[ErnieK]

Paul
You have just rung some bells in my head. I seem to remember someones home net doing that a couple of years ago. (Win98se) Ring bells that is

Now more security concious though. So have final question on this.

If NetMeeting is allowed to operate on LAN would this then mean that when used on the Internet it would also give free access to LAN from Internet when started up?

[ErnieK]

Sleddog
I have installed TightVNC and can now see Win98 desktop from Xp computer and work with icons on the desktop.

But! At present I can only do this one way. When operating both computers myself I would like to be able to work both ways.

So could you tell me how to enable being able to do same on both computers so I can do the the reverse. (going from 98 - second computer - to XP - first computer) Do I have to full install of Tight VNC onto both computers?