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bryanmac
12-16-2003, 09:36 PM
Well, as suspected I cannot get this Windows 98 SE machine to even see this new Winodws XP Pro machine on the network. Has anyone had any luck with this that can offer some tips. Everyone I talk to pretty much says it's hit or miss.

Basically the WinXP Pro machine can see both the Win98 SE machines, but neither of the Win98 machines can see the WinXP. It's not a matter of access rights (yet), at this point the 98's can't even connect to the XP. I've tried switching wich workgroups they are all in. I've tried installing every networking protocol available. And have tried both with simple file sharing enabled and disabled in XP. I cannot get to the XP machine through mapping it, through network neighborhood or through the run command. Since I can see the shares on the 98 from the XP, I don't think it's an issue with the router or cabling or anything. Does anyone have any tips they can offer that may help. It is pretty essential that all three machines are properly networked.

Thanks in advance!

Bryan

Mark Miller
12-16-2003, 09:53 PM
Man, I have had the same problem with 2 XP machines and I am begining to think your friends are right, it is hit or miss with windows networks.
I am sure someone else will come along with some thought but I have still not been able to get my notebook to see desktop, except once every 100 times. I hope your internet sharing is ok, mine seems to be just no file sharing.
Frustrating:mad:
Mark:)

Budfred
12-16-2003, 10:15 PM
Check out this thread from when I was setting up Win2K and WinME. I got lots of good help and links that you will probably also find helpful....

Network Win2K/WinME.... (http://www.pcguide.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=24310&goto=newpost)

pave_spectre
12-16-2003, 11:38 PM
Part of the problem with sharing files using permissions (possibly even without) is that even with the same username/password on two machines, XP/2K doesnt see them as the same user when in a workgroup situation, but as \\machinename\username.

That means trying to access machine1 with the user dave from machine 2 with user dave doesnt automatically guarantee access, since he permissions would allow \\machine1\dave and it would see access being attempted from \\machine2\dave. This is apparently part of the reason for the existance of the Guest account.

Thats not to say it doesnt work sometimes.

The only time I have not had access troubles sharing files was using a domain which maintains the global catalogue of users, unfortunately thats probably slightly overkill for a home situation.

Another workaround is apparently using NetBEUI on the local network but Ive seen no real evidence that its practical or particularly effective.

bryanmac
12-18-2003, 03:48 PM
The Internet sharing is just fine, I'm using a broadband router to do that. It's just getting these darn machines to talk to eachother!!! I tried to install NetBEUI as well since I've actually have seen that work in the past but it's just not working here. I'm going to look through that other thread from the link that Budfred gave me and see if I come up with anything. Thanks for the input so far though. :)

classicsoftware
12-18-2003, 04:13 PM
You must create a user name and password on XP pro box. After that has been accomplished, Re-boot the Win98 computer and when the logon box comes up, use the user name and password you created on the XP Box.

Try this before you try ANYTHING ELSE

Post back with your results.

Variable
12-18-2003, 11:17 PM
Yea, its not hit or miss networking with xp. You've just not got it set up right. It sounds like a classic permission problem. Check out this site and remember you need to sign into your 98 machines with a username and password that matches the username and password you set up in XP. Also dont forget about those pesky firewalls including the one that comes with XP.

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_filesharing/