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andreadebiase
02-06-2004, 08:22 PM
I recently bought a WMP to MP3 converter. I also BOUGHT some songs from Napster. Despite the fact that I BOUGHT everything I can`t burn my PURCHASED songs in to MP3 format and burn them in a cd because they are protected. This is anfair. Is there a way to unprotect them in windows media player?
thank you
Fruss Tray Ted
02-06-2004, 10:14 PM
I feel your pain. See This Thread (http://www.pcguide.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26849) Read my posts in it. My third in that thread to be exact.
There may be more than one way to skin a cat but some old fashioned Yankee ingenuity may work too. I've wanted to try this but haven't as of yet. Mostly I have just avoided the copywrighted/tagged files.
jabarnutcase
02-06-2004, 11:14 PM
BTW....Did you ever get your X-Mas present? :p
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2593339337&category=1593
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2594262869&category=1077
(Edit) Holy smoly....Didn't realize how long that older thread was. Don't feel like reading it right now. Maybe you did get your X-mas present after all! :rolleyes:
Brought back memories...I saw Edgar Winter and Rick Derringer several times live back in the old days....Still have a perfect copy of that LP too.
OK.......As you were.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2594000348&category=1573
Fruss Tray Ted
02-07-2004, 12:01 AM
Thanks JB,,,
Been listenin' to the cd for more'n a week now...
Whole pile of others too :)
Johnny Winter 'And' LIVE!
Awesome guitar work there my friend...
Edit tidbit:
University of Rochester signs a deal with Napster
University of Rochester in U.S. has followed the footsteps of Penn State university by signing a deal with Napster to allow its dorm residents to use the legal online music service for free ("free" is bit exaggeration as the cost will be added to tuition fees or dorm rents anyway).
Terms of the contract allow dorm residents to stream and download unlimited number of tracks from Napster's (owned by Roxio) music catalog that includes over 500,000 tracks. Catch? Downloaded music can't be burned to a CD or transferred to other devices (such as portable digital audio players) for free, but such right costs $0.99 per track or $9.95 per album for students.
University also plans to extend the deal to cover all of its students later this year and plans to introduce discounted pricing for its staff to the service as well.
Source: University of Rochester press release (http://www.digitalwebcast.com/2004/02_feb/news/dlunroc2504.htm)
andreadebiase
02-07-2004, 06:57 PM
I WANNA MY PURCHASED SONGS ON MY PORTABLE MP3 PLAYER..I CAN`T TRANSFER THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE PROTECTED! THIS IS A FRAUD CUZ I BOUGHT THEM! IF I KNEW I COULDN`T TRANSFER THEM I WOULD HAVE BOUGHT A CD! I NEED A SOFTWARE TO DEPROTECT THEM AND AT THIS POINT I DON`T CARE IF IT IS COMING FROM WAREZ WEB SITES!!!!!!!
jabarnutcase
02-07-2004, 07:04 PM
:eek:
Sure am glad I'm wearing my earplugs! (I do however feel your pain). You're right. It just aint fair!
(Edit) Never mind that post below.....A mistake. ;)
Well, at least I know now not to purchase any music from Napster. Wish I could be of more help. Sorry. :(
(I like original CD's and LP's anyway).
You could always write a nasty letter to someone....If it's even possible to find an address of someone important enough.
jabarnutcase
02-07-2004, 07:05 PM
Bump (On my head)
Fruss Tray Ted
02-07-2004, 07:44 PM
What you bought is something with a catch. I got my money refunded because I left all but one on the server and realized I was not getting what I bargained for. So I complained and got the credit.
You can still manage to burn them if you experiment with my ideas above especially if you have 2 pc's you could put together for an evening. Other than that it is just like capturing analog sounds to your harddrive. I would not suspect any digital encoding could be transferred in that manner.
Guess you won't be going that route again anytime soon eh? Try Amazon.com for good deals on new and used cd's. I found that to be my preferred choice overall. ;)
jabarnutcase
02-07-2004, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by andreadebiase
.....AT THIS POINT I DON`T CARE IF IT IS COMING FROM WAREZ WEB SITES!!!!!!!
Not so sure I would go that route.
Give Fruss Tray Teds idea a shot- And then, consider it a lesson learned. ;)
Paleo Pete
02-08-2004, 10:16 AM
I wish I had seen this one last night before the yawn monster attacked way early...
Have to shut this one down, I probably have a more belligerent attitude than most of you about the digital rights garbage and copy protection schemes, RIAA lawsuits and RIAA in general, the whole music downloading issue.
HOWEVER...I've always refused to allow links or instructions on defeating or bypassing software EULA restrictions, and this falls in a very similar category.
Yes, I firmly believe if you pay for it you should be able to copy and play it on computer or car CD, burn it to CD for archival purposes, compile a various songs CD or whatever. But I cannot allow instructions or links to methods of bypassing copy protection measures, same as EULA issues mentioned above.
The problem is the LEGALITY of it. Fact is, I get really steamed about the entire music downloading issue and the stance the RIAA have taken on it. When the artist actually makes enough profit to pay for the recording and then some, I'll believe the RIAA is working to protect the artist. Until then, the RIAA is lying, plain and simple. As is now, the artist either barely pays for the recording costs or actually loses money. Regardless, it is still unlawful to bypass copy protection measures, and that falls in the same category as EULA issues, hacking, writing viruses or spyware, etc. Can't do it here.
I dislike doing this a lot, but in the interest of consistency and fairness, I have to disallow links or instructions regarding methods of bypasing copy protection measures, same as I have done in the past regarding copying playstation games that are copy protected or Windows CDs.
I'm going to edit out the instructions above, something I very rarely do - I seriously dislike tinkering with peoples' posts - but will leave the thread open unless it turns into a flamewar. FTT's method may work, but people will have to think of it for themselves, we cannot condone bypassing of copy protection measures. Even though I would do it myself...
FTT: This is not personal, I don't intentionally single you out, please don't take it that way. I'm trying to remain consistent with general forum policy I've implemented since day one.
Fruss Tray Ted
02-08-2004, 11:30 AM
Oops! Sorry Pete.
Wasn't thinking there for a bit except on how to get the poster out of a dilemna. I found the edits and like a skilled surgeon, you took out just the content that stepped over the line without YELLING AT ME! I appreciate that. There is enough left, if the reader is crafty,,, uh, never mind...
Now I'll back away real slow-like and go crawl back under my rock-... And be real quiet about this in the future, I promise... (-and-roll) :D
PrntRhd
02-08-2004, 02:29 PM
LOL,
This thread should not be labelled "not fair", it should be labelled "Not Fair Use".
:D :D
Paleo Pete
02-09-2004, 12:51 AM
hehe...
Thanks FTT, I was worried you'd be really upset...
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