New CPU = FREEZE

[mxpx]

Hi -
I have a PCChips M805LR motherboard with the Via KT133 chipset. I have 196mb SDRAM and a 350w power supply. I just upgraded my 650 mhz AMD Duron to a 1.2 Ghz AMD Athlon. It posts the right speed and everything and the manual says its compatible with my motherboard. btw both have 200mhz FSB. Anyways whenever I boot up and start playing around or typing a paper grrr my computer seems to freeze up after about a half hour. I flashed my BIOS to the updated .bin and everything. Btw I have the Award v6.00PG BIOS. I know most of you are thinking cooling problem but nope. I have one of the best cooling devices around with about 3 case fans and now the case off and a house fan blowing on it. My processor mantains a constant temperature of 98-110 F. Anyways there are no conflicts and this NEVER happend with my other processor. Ever since I installed this one the freezing began. Any suggestions?
Thanks

[diurnal]

Did you load some software recently? try uninstall and reinstalling
Check for viruses?
Do that and post back.

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[ranchdog]

Welcome mxpx....

My first thought is chipset drivers. Have you downloaded the VIA 4in1 drivers?

Also, the 1.2 Tbird is going to be touchy about the +5v leg of your power supply. But you seem to boot-up OK.

This problem is taking approx. 1/2 hour. Give or take. After you get things humming. Try ctrl-alt-del and see how much you have running at the same time. Before you get a freeze.

I almost have to blame the chipset on this one. SouthBridge. 686A/B.

Luck.

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[mxpx]

Thanks for your responses.
Actually check that - My power supply is 300watts.
I just put my Duron 650mhz chip back in and my computer doesnt freeze anymore. It has to be something to do with power or the CPU. Any suggestions? I didnt install anything recently and i dont have a virus, i scanned for it. Plus my 650mhz chip works flawlessly. I did install the 4in1 drivers by the way but still no luck. At first i thought it was the chipset too but is there anything else i can do???
Thanks

[mxpx]

Oh and by the way -
I can last about 30 min without freezing when im just surfin the net but when im playing something like DaOC or Rogue Spear - my computer freezes within 5 minutes. Any clues? thanks

[mjc]

All 300W PS are not the same...if you can find the specs see what the rating for +5V is...should be in amps; amps x volts = watts.

Could also be a heat problem...the new CPU is much hotter than the 650 Duron....your cooling may not be quite upto the new CPU.

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[diurnal]

It seems to me its the processer, cause weve rule out software, and viruses.
ITs either the 1.2 voltages are to high for the power supply to take or the processer is bad.
What else do you have hook to your computer, if you have the works, cdrom,dvd etc, the 1.2 voltage is not getting enough power, consequently locking up and freezing.

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[mxpx]

I only have a 50x CD-Rom Drive. I have a GeForce2 32MB and im using the sound card thats on the motherboard. I have an AGI Powersupply model #HP-D301GF5. If you go here http://www1.amd.com/athlon/npower/index/1,1712,,00.html?processor=13&formfactor=ATX
is shows that my PS should handle 1200 mhz.. what should i do? try and take the CPU back??
thanks

[andyswork@beci.net]

I would try bigger power supply. Agree with mjc. Try the power supply first.

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[BigBlue66]

Howdy,

Personally, I would double-check the voltage of the power supply against the requirements of the Athlon processor. If that checks out, then I would return the Athlon for a replacement processor.

Another possibility, although the literature may claim that the mobo will handle that speed of processor, is that it may in fact not be able to support it. There isn't a whole lot of difference between a one gigger and the 1.2 gigger, so I might consider getting a one gigger as a replacement to see how that works out.

Cheers,

Big Blue 66


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[BigBlue66]

Ok, just checked the specs on that motherboard. It says that it will support Duron/Thunderbird up to 1.0GHz, (the 1.0Ghz is highlighted in Red) or higher.

I would seriously wonder about the "or higher" part. My advice still stands then. Go for a 1.0GHz Athlon 200Mhz FSB, and I'll bet your problems will be solved.

Post back with your progress.

Big Blue 66


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[setoguro]

Did you do the flash and then the problem or did you flash trying to correct the problem? When you flashed your bios did you clear them afterwords?

[ranchdog]

mxpx

Have thought about this problem. Different variables on this one bug me as to a concrete immediate solution.

True.. the PSU may be marginal. The 1.2 draws about 65 watts by itself.

Clean up that 1.2 chip-die real good w/Q-tips and isopropyl alcohol. ( you do use thermal paste, right? ) Hold it under a real good light and carefully study it -- looking for a damage spot on it somewhere. On one of the corners, etc. Damage from the Heatsink. Use a magnifying glass if you have to.

There must be an AGP problem additionally. Is your Vid card agp or pci ? I see at the VIA website they have a new set of AGP drivers available. What are your AGP settings in BIOS? Are you using the good Detenator drivers?

Sometimes the latest BIOS available for an upgrade doesn't work. And a guy has to back up to an earlier model. But still use one that will assist the system in recognizing the higher end Tbirds.

Sometimes the latest 4in1 drivers don't work and an earlier set does. Beware of the 4.28 series. Much grief.

Basically I would begin by trying to sort out the driver compatability problem with your GeForce to begin with.

As far as I know ( which ain't much ) the 1Ghz and the 1.2Ghz are designed the same and use the same core. The only difference being the multiplier. In your case ( 200 series ) 10X or 12X. Albiet, the 1.2 can throw more clock cycles and the chipset becomes unhappy.

Do you have good < quality > RAM? Needs to be in this case.

Let us know how you are getting along.

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[This message has been edited by ranchdog (edited 11-29-2001).]