Microsoft strategy

[elitehak]

Hello everyone,

Just a though i wanted to share. Any feedback is welcomed.

Would it not be a great stategy (for Microsoft that is) to have released W98, then right after Win Me, then W2K and now Win XP inside a period of about 3 years so that software vendors have no time to adjust their software to the new OS's and that Microsoft would then push their own products (which are compliant to XP for example) from the web (not in stores anymore). That way this would force vendors to "let go" of the manufacturing of boxes, etc. for retail and put their application for "rent" on the web . this would probably put a stronghold on what Microsoft can control or not ?

Samething goes with Win Xp and their authentification of drivers to be "microsoft compliant"

Maybe i am off track, but it's still a thought http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

Eli

[YODA74]

M$ wants no compitition thats what Bill is after, the final straw is MONEY and POWER & GREED. Thats what this country has turned into It's about CONTROL And it's going to get worse small companys will have to fold their will be no choice.Look at it logically try and down load XP using Netscape will NOT work it will always crash. and with XP if you have a problem on a weekend say friday and you work on it all night and saturday mourning you call M$ for code HA! not until Monday my friend their closed weekends. I'm not going to ramble about this i'm tired of Bill and his BS all i can say is go PENGUIN

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[Jiggy]

Could it get to the point where MS make all the hardwear as well??
Or am i thinking outside the box. Come on think of it, MS says, no demands use this and only this.
Soon the ten commandments will be rewriten by Bill Gates.
Did he steal his ideas, how knows..theres money in bringing out os every few years, the fools.

Jiggy

[bassman]

Oh Boy, here we go again.
Let me start out with "I have no connection with MS, nor am I sticking up for them." My comments here are based on MY ideals that you need to think for yourself, stick to your decisions, and not snivel every time the business' you support do something you don't like.
Bill Gates' ideas, whether stolen, bettered or innovative, are still the ideas that paved the way for that machine you are using to be in your home and enjoyable. Microsoft does supply code for other software vendors so they can be a part of the Windows OS package. If not, we would have never had software other then MS. Lets not forget the parting of ways of Gates and Apple computers and why that happened (They refused his ideas to be compatible).
As for Gates' personal wealth, I could care less. I feel that what he does with his money is his business. He and his wife personally fund the richest charitable foundation on earth (next to the US' foreign aid policy) http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/frown.gif
All I have to say to software companies who can't keep up with MS is "Get off your A**." Its a big, fast, cold world out there and if you think your competition is going to wait for you to catch up, you live in an ignorant desperate world.
WAKE UP AND DRINK THE COFFEE. That smelling stuff is for dogs.
I will close with “I am not in support of Microsoft, I am in support of thinking for yourself.” If you don’t like them, don’t use their products. If you think their products are poorly made, pick ones that are better.

OK, I’m off my soapbox http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif


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[This message has been edited by bassman (edited 11-08-2001).]

[billkoeh]

Ahmen to that! I think MS products are great. I'm glad Bill's rich and continues to make great products. The other companies need to stop whining(AOL!) and listen to the PC consumer. Compatability is more important than choice at this stage of the game.

[sea69]

LoL...... that's all good but M$ wants to own the world.

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actually, they want nobody to own computers at all (except for their VENDORS).

They want us to rent all of our pc needs {from them } on a pay per use basis, from 'stations' owned by M$.

my.. my...

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[This message has been edited by sea69 (edited 11-08-2001).]

[bassman]

Yea Sea I heard some chatter about that a while back. About a year ago they where saying "Oracle", I Think, was going to lease access to their servers, or software on their servers. Haven't heard much lately.
For a large business, that might be a wise choice. Only problem I see is, every time there is a major change in a suite (MS Office, Corel Office...), you need to send your staff thru a training seminar.
As a lot of us know, businesses don't like to spend unnecessary money. Constant upgrade of hardware and software is out of the question for most companies, (if it ain't broke, don't fix it). I'm sure Ghost can attest to this, There are still quite a few networks out there, working just fine for the companies that use them, with 486 machines somewhere on the line.
I like to think of computers in terms of cars, and this is another good example. There are a lot of people who like to have the newest model with the newest features every year or so. A lease is the perfect solution for them. Most people prefer to keep their car for longer periods and are satisfied with the features and functions of a vehicle for a longer period of time. Ownership is the solution for them.
Companies all over the world spend billions of dollars a year on R&D, and more billions on advertising to get us to buy their products, all in the hopes that their product is the most desirable. Desirable enough that we will spend whatever they ask for it. Yet it is still the consumer that SETS the trends because we know what we want.
The reasoning behind the success of computer technology advancement is because we as consumers don't know enough about the product to understand we don't need a rocket ship to travel cyberspace, just a really fast jet http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
That is changing, and when it does, MS and Intel will change their strategies as well. Feast or famine, when the food is on the table, you better eat all you can http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif

That was a bit longwinded wasn't it? http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/eek.gif


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[Jumby]

Thanks Bassman. We love to hate him and them, but he's got the goods. I wish I had done it. And nothing is perfect. (except maybe my wife)

[Lucias_Clay]

Well all this talk about Gates is all well and good but lets place the blame where it belongs, if Al Gore hadn't invented the internet all this really wouldn't be an issue http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[Ghost_Hacker]

All software companies want to rent you their products. They have never liked the idea that you could copy their code and give it away for free to your friends. Broadband internet access finally will let software companies create software-for-a-monthly-fee services. So if you don't like or want to slow down this new trend, convince your friends to stick to using a modem. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif


As for Microsoft stealing other's ideas. Sure they do, unless your IBM,ATT,GE or some school like MIT, your proably stealing your ideas from someone. (or buying their company) MS has made some good products, while I don't agree with their marketing plans ( A world where only one company or product domainates is never a good thing) they have done alot for the PC industry and their hard to secure and keep running products put money in mine and alot of other folks pockets. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif



[This message has been edited by Ghost_Hacker (edited 11-10-2001).]

[zander]

I hate to bring up a sleeping topic, but I'd just be interested to know how many great new innovative ideas in technology Microsoft has stifled in it's supremicy war. We talk about how great Microsoft is, but they only got that way by stomping out a few fires, if you know what I mean. All I can say, is I'd hate to be the guy trying to bring out a new idea to make everyone's computing life a little easier with old Bill looking over my shoulder. Can anyone say "ring the dinner bell???" http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/eek.gif

[bassman]

Hi Zander,
Yes it is a sleeping topic and we usualy don't bring them back up.

I suppose it doesn't matter to much on this one though, as it was more of a discussion then a repair matter where the original poster would either be long gone or have the problem fixed by now.

As for MS "stomping out small fires" http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif , I believe that is very common in any business and was happening long ago.
You have to remember where Gates came from and understand that the main driving force behind MS was his ability to fight for what he believed in, believing in himself, and never taking NO for an answer.
The biggest reason he ran over the competition early on is because there was none.
As the competition developed, they began crying that MS was to powerful and moving to fast. They were unable to keep up, unable to produce a winning product. WWWHHHAAAAAAA http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/frown.gif

Yes, there may be better products out there, but making a better product is not enough. You have to fight to get it manufactured, fight to get it to market, fight to get it noticed, and fight to get it accepted.
We are finaly begining to see some competition in this technical world and I think it is great. I want to see more products in the OS, and office suites so that we do have a choice.

SHEEEESH, This guy can blab http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/tongue.gif
Hey, you asked http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif

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[Ghost_Hacker]

I call this the "Beta-Max" school of thought. Just as Beta-max video tapes were better than VHS tapes there are "better" ways of doing things with PCs. But how many beta max video machines are sold today? how many computers run BE or Linux compared to Windows?

All businesses will do whatever it takes to corner the market, MS isn't alone in that area.