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PrntRhd
08-16-2004, 09:57 PM
Here is a list of programs that won't work after upgrading to SP2 at the present time: theinquirer (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=17869)

Some of the programs may have work-arounds. Lists have a way of being a couple of days slow.

tommy
08-17-2004, 01:57 AM
Here's a link to the MSFT KB article on the subject:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=842242

ErnieK
08-17-2004, 04:18 AM
XP SP2 and safe mode

Sorry if I seem to have jumped in here but it is/could be relevant here.

One of the further links (posted bt PrntRhd) leads to DivX solution for Data Execution Prevention (DEP).

I was wondering if this was the reason for the inabillity to boot into safe mode.

Dual boot (98 & XP-SP2) 98 can be booted to safe mode but in any attempt to boot into safe mode with XP the following happens.

After pressing F8 the computer goes through the normal routine and gives the selections. When safe mode is chosen the computer then starts to boot into it and the drivers lists can be seen as usual. After the drivers have been loaded the computer then loops back to re-booting and goes through the process again. This happens twice and the third time a BSD appears wityh IRQ_LESS_THAN_EQUAL error appears.

The computer boots into windows proper and is very stable. It is just the accessing of XP safe mode that has this problem

malcore
08-17-2004, 04:46 AM
Hi Ernie

I have two machines here running on SP2. One a clean slipstreamed install and the other upgraded. Both can boot into SafeMode without problem, with DEP on for "essential windows programs and services" or "all programs and services" or disabled completely.


If you want to try and see if SafeMode works without DEP, you need to edit your boot.ini file. (Although I feel this is not your problem).

There is a new addition under [operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

The bold is the new addition, and it relates to DEP. There are four options for this line.

noexecute=optin, enables DEP for "essential windows programs and services"

noexecute=optout, enables DEP for "all programs and services" and allows for programs to be excluded.

noexecute=AlwaysOn,enables DEP for "all programs and services", but does not allow for program exclusions.

and

noexecute=AlwaysOff, disables DEP completely.

As I said, I can boot into SafeMode on two systems no mattter what the setting is.

Edit- forgot link to MS, http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2mempr.mspx (see chart near bottom)

ErnieK
08-17-2004, 05:00 AM
Hi Malcore
I noticed this addition to Boot.ini and removed it to see if it would make any difference, (even though I didn't know what put it there I knew it had somehting to do with SP2). It did not. So that removes that possibillity. I will keep tying to track it down and if unsuccessful I will just do another clean install to see if it makes a difference.

The XP is a slipsteamed clean install.

I have just downloaded the full selection of documents (8 in all) form the MS link you posted and will stay away form PS2 until I have tried to read through them.

malcore
08-17-2004, 05:02 AM
If you remove that line XP will act as though the /noexecute=optin switch was there anyway, so DEP is turned on for essential windows programs and services. The only way to disable DEP entirely is to add the /noexecute=AlwaysOff switch. Some say you can just enter /Execute to turn it off, but I have not yet seen documentation to support this.

ErnieK
08-17-2004, 05:08 AM
Thanks Malcore.

ErnieK
08-17-2004, 05:35 AM
I have just re-inserted a previous ghost image with SP1 and can boot to safe mode with it on the same machine. (The boot.ini retains the change for DEP but has no effect on SP1) so the fault must be somewhere/something to do with the installation of SP2.

I have intermediate ghost images of this installation so I will work backwards to see if it is a software fault. Though I cannot see how it could be.

malcore
08-17-2004, 05:48 AM
I would compare your IRQ tables between SP1 and SP2. May be some changes in the ACPI, resulting in different IRQ management. Any devices sharing?

ErnieK
08-17-2004, 06:37 AM
I will chech them out and post back later (a lot later :rolleyes: )

ErnieK
08-18-2004, 04:23 AM
I have been mucking about to try and find a solution for this and I think I have found the problem.

With Sp1 installation I had Neros's InCD ver4.2.9.1 installed. In the SP2 setup I had/have InCD ver 4.3.00. When I updated to the newer version in the original OS (SP1) I had the same problems. (BSD when trying ot access safe mode)

After I had removed this version and re-inserted 4.2.91 I was once again able to boot into safe mode without problems. I will be checking out the SP2 installation later today (hopefully) and willkeep you upto date.

Has anyone else experienced this problem?
The InCD version is the one posted on nero's updates for August.

PrntRhd
08-19-2004, 01:50 AM
Here is a link to a clearer list of SP2 problematic programs: Microsoft (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2)

ErnieK
08-19-2004, 03:31 AM
Hi Malcore
The faultis/was there with SP1 as well as SP2, so the problem lies with the latest version of InCD form Nero. Remove InCD and re-insert previous version and everything is OK. No problems with the latest version of Nero itsself just InCD.

malcore
08-19-2004, 07:24 AM
Thanks Ernie , glad you got it sorted.

I don't often use InCD, but had downloaded the latest release prior to installing SP2.

Thanks for the heads up.

Edit- I found a bit more info on DEP and the /execute switch for disabling. (For anyone interested).


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;875352