computer reboot for no reason on me since new chip

[dirtfarmer]

question
i seem to be have fun with my computer now again
question why is it rebooting all of a sudden when you useing thew computer it happen fast and a couple time

got my computer back 15 jan new chip new power pack i had a celerion 433 Mhz chip now he put in a pentium III 800 Hhz, owhich is in BIOS when you look at it at cpu cclock over drive is up by 200 Mhz, when it disabled is goes to 600 Mhz, but the intel id utlitly tell me is a 800 Mhz at 133 Mhz system bus
took it back 16 jan for connect power button and light for coputer and hard drive
17 jan progam crash and it booted 2time
18 jan 1 reboot 2 crash
19 jan 3 reboot 2 in 5 min

what going on???????????
is it the chip that doing it ;,, or what it suppoae to be a 800MhX chip but when you disabled CPU clock overdrive in BIOS is goes to 600 Mhz why???????

also my mother borad is a PC100 systemboard use a intel 440ZX 100 MHZ accocrd to my info, which support pentium II 233`~500 MHz and celeron 266~433 Mhz cpu which was my old one, support both 66.6 Mhz and 100 Mhz front side bus
now a pentium III 800 Mhz is attach when it cpu clock overdrive is enabled, 600Mhz when disables, of which that i do not understand for one, so question what going on would like to know as soon as possable before any thing go wrong
from intel processor frequency id utility state that epected frequency is 800 MHz processor and 133 MHz system bus

wondeing are the motherboard and chip geting along together, if you read the info you know the chip is 133 MhZ and motherborard tell me it support a 100 Mhz front side bus, is it possable?????/

[Styx]

It sounds as if you've put a CPU on the mainboard that requires a faster FSB than the mainboard is capable of handling. You should shut down and re-install the orginal CPU and take the new chip back.

You answered your own question. Yes it's the chip - 'also my mother borad is a PC100 systemboard use a intel 440ZX 100 MHZ accocrd to my info, which support pentium II 233`~500 MHz and celeron 266~433 Mhz cpu which was my old one, support both 66.6 Mhz and 100 Mhz front side bus'/// 'from intel processor frequency id utility state that epected frequency is 800 MHz processor and 133 MHz system bus.

Your new CPU requires a FSB faster than your mainboard highest speed of 100 Mhz can produce.

Conclusion: You over-clocked you mainboard incorrectly. Gert it out of there immediately before you burn something up. And next time don't upgrade to a cPU faster than the mainboard will handle - 'also my mother board is a PC100 systemboard use a intel 440ZX 100 MHZ accocrd to my info, which support pentium II 233`~500 MHz and celeron 266~433 Mhz cpu which was my old one, support both 66.6 Mhz and 100 Mhz front side bus'.

Styx




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[Styx]

It sounds as if you've put a CPU on the mainboard that requires a faster FSB than the mainboard is capable of handling. You should shut down and re-install the orginal CPU and take the new chip back.

You answered your own question. Yes it's the chip - 'also my mother borad is a PC100 systemboard use a intel 440ZX 100 MHZ accocrd to my info, which support pentium II 233`~500 MHz and celeron 266~433 Mhz cpu which was my old one, support both 66.6 Mhz and 100 Mhz front side bus'/// 'from intel processor frequency id utility state that epected frequency is 800 MHz processor and 133 MHz system bus.

Your new CPU requires a FSB faster than your mainboard highest speed of 100 Mhz can produce.

Conclusion: You over-clocked you mainboard incorrectly. Gert it out of there immediately before you burn something up. And next time don't upgrade to a CPU faster than the mainboard will handle - 'also my mother board is a PC100 systemboard use a intel 440ZX 100 MHZ accocrd to my info, which support pentium II 233`~500 MHz and celeron 266~433 Mhz cpu which was my old one, support both 66.6 Mhz and 100 Mhz front side bus'.

Styx




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"If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. That is the principal difference between a dog and a man." - Mark Twain

[dirtfarmer]

first off i did do it i computer repair guy did it not me
and second i find it out yes some thing wrong
here extra info i found
i got this info off useing SiSoft sandra, and the yelloow warning when off

Warning W2541: FSB exceeds Chipset rated speed. Reduce FSB.

Warning W2523: Memory bus speed exceeds memory rated speed. Reduce

memory bus speed.

Warning W2542: Memory bus speed exceeds Chipset rated speed. Reduce

FSB/memory multiplier.

Warning W2521: AGP bus speed is too high. Reduce FSB speed or FSB/AGP

multiplier.

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< Processor(s) >

Processor(s): Intel Pentium III @ 800MHz

Performance Rating: PR960 (estimated)

L2 On-board Cache: 256kB ECC synchronous ATC

< Mainboard and BIOS >

Bus(es): ISA AGP PCI USB SMBus/i2c

MP Support: No

MP APIC: No

System BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 062702

System Chipset: Intel Corporation 82443BX/ZX 440BX/ZX CPU to PCI

Bridge (AGP Implemented)

L3 External Cache: 256kB synchronous write-back

Installed Memory: 128MB (200% true allocated load)

System Chipset >

Model: Intel Corporation 82443BX/ZX 440BX/ZX CPU to PCI

Bridge (AGP Implemented)

Bus(es): ISA AGP PCI USB SMBus/i2c

L3 External Cache: 256kB synchronous write-back

Front Side Bus Speed: 133MHz

ACPI PM Support: Yes

QUESTION IS HOW CAN I REDUCE THE SPEED FROM 133MHZ TO 100 MHZ

[BigBlue66]

Hey,

Check your motherboard manual. Look for information on changing the FSB by using a jumper on the motherboard. If you're lucky, that board supports both 100 or 133Mhz FSB. If you're not lucky, it's hardwired for a 100Mhz FSB.

If you can't change the FSB, you will have to take that Pentium processor back for one that will work for you.

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[Whyzman]

Hello dirtfarmer,

It appears you have a warranty on your computer...USE IT! I realize that it might be an inconvenience to keep bringing it back...however, if you go a "messin'" under the hood with the CPU, Motherboard etc., you could void your warranty.

Make them fix it!!

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[dirtfarmer]

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i reduce the spped down to 600 Mhz and 100 bus speed downgraded
/W monitor and CPU PnP setup ===== CPU speed Mhz 800 ( 100X8)
CPU clock overdrive ??

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cpu 800 MHz bit knock down to 600 Mhz
cpu clock overdrive disabled was 200 Mhz over
make it a 600 Mhz

intel utlity report that
reported frequency processor 601 Mhz system bus 100 Mhz
expected frequency processor 800 Mhz system bus 133 Mhz


this is where my computer sit now, ok can i run the chip at this speed no problem????????????????

other seting
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cpu speed 800
cpu clock overdrive 100-> 103 Mhz
make it a 650 in BIOS
intel uitlity report
reported freq processor 618 Mhz system bus 103 Mhz
expexted freq processor 800 Mhz system bus 133 Mhz
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cpu speed 800 Mhz
cpu clock overdrive 100-> 112 Mhz
make it a 700 Mhz in bios
intel uitlity report
reported freq processor 673 Mhz system bus 112 Mhz
expected freq processor 800 Mhz system bus 133 Mhz
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cpu speed 800 Mhz
cpu clock overdrive 100->133 Mhz
make it 800 Mhz in bios
itel utlity report
reported freq processor 800 Mhz system bus 133 Mhz
expected freq processor 800 Mhz system bus 133 Mhz
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((((( info receive from one co)))(((Based on the information provided, you are pushing your motherboard to/beyond it's limits. The ZX chipset was originally designed to run at 66MHz FSB and later to 100MHZ. The BX chipset is a 100MHz FSB set. This setup is not be recommended (PIII overclocking) nor would we support or install it. To answer the question "would the motherboard burn out first or the chip", my answer is simply that you will be so frustrated trying to run the machine that you should be replacing one or the other before any damage can occur. )))

(((Whoever installed the CPU should have checked the motherboard specs. The motherboard is running at 100Mhz and the CPU runs at 133MHz.... this is the problem.))))
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To summarize – it doesn’t work, it won’t work, and it never will.



It is like you are trying to put a brand new high performance turbo diesel engine into an old pickup. You can get it in, but you can’t get the power out of it.

Don’t over-clock it to the extent that you have. The chip will have overheating problems and can potentially burn out. In addition it will not be stable.)))))))

but yet i go a phone call from the repair guy, he tell me the borad can take the chip as he would never have do it it if did not, but offer get me a borad and celeron chip in return for the one i got for a a just a little credit plus more money, some one try to pull the wook over my eye