I should have bought a hummer!

[kenner]

After reading excerpts on the corporate looting and piracy act, I knew I should have bought a hummer. My little prius only qualified for a tiny rebate. 25,000 if you bought hummer! Not that I'd own one or anything near it. Hate excess and figure any vehicle that doesn't get 30mpg needs a 60 percent tax rate. it pays to be a bush-ite as HELL-iburton knows well. Pollute the water, pay no US taxes, georgie smiles.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4117683
If you want to read excerpts on this latest congressional fraud the above link should work. If not do a search for Connie Rice under npr.org

[Donn]

FYI-- Halliburton was used exclusively by the Clinton adm when they went into Yugoslavia-Bosnia etc., also no-bid contracts. Of course that doesn't stop Halliburton from overcharging, repeat charging, and overstating expenses. . . . :)

As for as NPR (and Dan Rather, and Palestinian Pete, and Warpitall Brokaw)...you get what you pay for. Try Fox News as a comparison.

Maybe they'll hire Marv Albert to team up with Bill O'Reilly....teeheehee.... (Or better yet--Triumph, the Insult Comedy Dog , Or maybe just Triumph by himself. . . :p)


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[pentachris]

As for as NPR (and Dan Rather, and Palestinian Pete, and Warpitall Brokaw)...you get what you pay for.

I totally agree. As a contributing NPR listener, I feel that I get the best news available.


Try Fox News as a comparison.

/shudders... :eek:

[Mark Miller]

There is a dvd out that my nephew gave concerning fox news
"Outfoxed Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism'
Very scary stuff.
There are now four or five news centers that control almost all our news
I have been ranting about this for years and it only seems to get worse
Mark :mad:

[Donn]

Mark, I only know what I like--like everyone else--but I am always curious about new info on these matters. Can you give a little synopsis of this DVD you mentioned content/viewpoint?

Thanks. . .

[Mark Miller]

Sure Donn,
Basically it says the Fox {Murdoch} are very right wing and that he is a danger to free press everywhere On almost all of the western continents he is either one or two as far as reach and viewership.
the man himself is an ultra conservative and in my opinion has way too much power in what we see and what we read.
Of course not everyone feels this way and being liberal is not in vogue but if you notice the FCC keeps raising the percent of the total a company can own of our t.v. and radio audience. This is being done city by city.
Fox of course is not alone but he is by far the most right wing of the owners of these multi-media companies.
We all say it can't happen here, but when a few very large companies control what we see and hear, who knows what can happen.
IMHO

[Donn]

Okay, thanks, i checked it out on Amazon and read some of their reviews. I could say the same things about Palestinian Pete, Red Dan, and Warpitall Brokaw. I guess we'll have to use our heads (and hearts) to filter out the bs from all sides and push for a better world one breath at a time. . . . starting with ourselves . . . :eek:


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(ps: with Paul Horn live at the Taj Mahal playing in the background. . . :)

[Flick]

Rupert Murdoch regularly hosts puppy barbeques. He lowers the standards on everything he touches.

[Donn]

I deleted this, see next post instead...Donn

[Donn]

Well, if you mean that actually, then you've got a gripe with most of the people living and eating from Burma (Myanmar) to Hawaii including China and the Phillipines-- as far as eating dog, particularly puppies, is concerned....

edit: errors

[Flick]

Rupert Murdoch is a very successful media mogul, major shareholder and managing director of the News Corporation. He is one of the only chief executives in any multinational media corporation who (through his family company) has a controlling ownership share in the companies he runs. He exercises total editorial control over his News Corporation.

The Reverend Sun Yung Moon owns the Washington Times and UPI. He too exercises total editorial control over his news operations.

Zealots and unwitting dupes flock to these "news" outlets for the "truth".

[Mark Miller]

The most dangerous thing is that whoever these guys are fewer and fewer of them are controling whay we see and what we read.
I think this is a large reason why the U.S has swung so much to the right.
This has nothing to do with Kerry vs Bush but just the general leaning of the country.
Mark

[Donn]

(caps for emphasis, not emotion)

Well now that's an interesting coment, Mark, because I see the country leaning way to the left, paticularly in that the abc-nbc-cbs-npr news media is so blatantly predisposed to the left. I mean (now this is conversation, ok, just conversation) how far would it have gone if it had been Mr. Kerry that someone at CBS had used counterfeit documents to attack? They'd be screaming about it for years. But it died the day after it was exposed. Counterfeited documents, and no one followed up on it? Please.

Look at this latest fiasco, again with CBS and now with the New York Times--X hundred TONS of technical high explosives disappeared just about overnight and it's GB's fault because (Mr Kerry says) he is incompetent to run the military. . . come to find out two days later--the ammo dump was emptied before the American troops could get to it a year and half ago, it hasn't been there for a year and a half-- and where did it go--into Syria. Gee, I wonder if anything else went into Syria? Like maybe Nuclear Bio and Chem ingredients and products....hmmmm..... Did they push THAT end of the story the way they pushed first part of it. . .?

Now, as for Rupert Murdoch owning all this news real estate, why would that automatically make him evil, or prone to a predisposed viewpoint MORESO than the ol'boys club in New York that runs the networks. Is it possible that even though they own their own companies (well theoretically anyway) isn't it possible they could be in just as much collusion as Rupert and his subsidary directors could be? My God, just looked at all the attitude that comes out of the evening news talking heads, its terrible.

Look at the morning show...Catie Kuric and Matt Lauer had this poisonous little woman and her utterly farcical book about GB on THREE mornings in a row. Did they have the military men from the fast boat controversey on . . .even once? NO. Why not. Because someone told them "They're lying!" Is that substantiated? No.

The country is leaning to the right, hmmm. Maybe you're right and I just don't see it.

But, like I said before, the alternative to not having troops on the ground in the middle east is unthinkable-- Der Fortress Europe all over again, moslem-fundamentalist style. . .1,000 Km of closed countries subverted by AlQaida and the Talliban, 1,000Km of safe houses and safe areas for kidnap hostages, counterfeiting currency and documents, N.B.C. manufacturing sites, regimental training sites, unconventional warfare training sites, cultural and religious-based prison camps (which Iran already has). . .Lockerbie Scotland, the Beruit hijackings, the Indonesia bombings, the Phillipine kidnappings, the World Trade Center bombings. . .all on a much (PROMISED) larger scale. It's unthinkable.

80% of the world's oil in THEIR hands. . . no thanks.

Leaning to the right, maybe the change is good for while. . .

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[Mark Miller]

Donn,
First I would like to say that I am a Card carrying Republican.
Second I would also like to note that we do not ge most of our imported oil from the Middle East. Canada, Venezuela, Great Britain, and more and more Russia is where most of the imported oil is coming from.
Third I am in complete agreement about the threat of Al Quieda and all terrorists organizations.
Fourth my real problem is not with Rupert Murdoch per say but with the consolidation of something as important as news to be in the hands of so few.
Most people believe what they see on T.V and the newspapers. If what they see and read is skewed in one direction or the other the truth does not come out.
I have said in many other similar threads that todays enemy is to tomorrows allie. we have seen it many times in just the last sixty years.
the more diverse our information stream is, the better to judge the truth from fiction.
And yes in my opinion I feel the country is moving to the right. these things go in cycles and it just might be my own paranoia left over from the late 50"s very early 60"s
Mark
Mark

[Donn]

M'self I'm a registered independent. I have a lot of Jewish, some Christian, and some Baha'i relations (www.bahai.org). Anyone who sees what is happening to these groups in those countries and cannot put two and two together needs...to do so and quickly.

So, if it seems like I am over-emphasiszing my points...maybe I am, but. . .I have Jewish relatives in Europe (had...) and we do not even know which chimney they went up or what ditch the were shot into...they just disappeared one night. Similarly I had friends in Iran that were hung one night on pull-up gallows, 13 in one night, some of them were as young as 15 yrs old, all women and young girls, because they would not give up their religious beliefs, and stop teaching their religion in their childrens' classes (to their own children, friends and sibblings).

So, at this point I personally don't really care anymore what reason is used to put troops in the middle east and bust that party up, as long as it happens and quickly before the snakes get out of the bag again. Shame on the French and Russians and Germans for leaving us to do it alone. They of all people. . .

Like I said, just conversation. . . :cool: