View Full Version : GA-8IHXP (REV 3.0) M/B No vid!
Sys specs:
CPU: P4 2.66 ghz 533 FSB, With stock heatsink,and therm tape that came with cpu..
HD: WD 80 gig se 8 mb buffer,
vid: Power color's ati radeon 9200 se 128 MB
MB: GA-8IHXP (REV 3.0)
MEM: 1 gig 256x4 kensington PC1066 RDRAM
PS: Turbo Link Switching PS model CWT-420ATX-12V (420w max)
Ok this is the second time I've had this problem with the same setup just a different cpu and a new M/B. (same make M/B just a faster cpu)
Here is the M/B's url http://tw.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_GA-8IHXP%20(Rev%203.0).htm
The last time i had this prob video just died comp was covered by warranty so i said screw it they can take care of it and they did, as a result i got a faster cpu p4 2.66 ghz 533 MHz FSB,new mobo and memory. I BLAME THE BOARD but didn't do to much testing except removing the vid card and trying to boot and no post such as the current problem at hand.
I come home boot my pc everythings fine, i played a few games of q3 (quake 3) the screen goes black and white and everythings "splattered" black and white everywere. So i turn monitor on and off while comps still on nothing still black and white. Then i reboot, when i reboot i get no video and no post.
So i figure its the video card, so i unplug the PS from wall (I always unplug ps and ground myself), open the case up take out the vid card, I then plug in the computer in and hope to get a post, no post! Fan's all spin fine, HD cd roms (dvd prime cd rw slave), case fans are all powered and seem fine.
So i now know my PS is fine or atleast should be as everything lights right up and CD-roms seem to be reading the disk. But just to make sure i unhook HD, cd roms and floppy, boot and no post. SO now time to do a 'bone'! I then take all pci cards out, everything except for the cpu and memory and mobo of course. I boot and get no post...
I've checked the pc speaker its fine and is in the correct pins. my power switch will turn comp on and off altho my reset switch doesnt seem to do anything but turn on a redish orange led light on in front of case.
Now after all this, i think to myself maybe my Case is grounding my M/B so i then take it out of case and put it on a few phone books. With cpu, memory, speaker, reset, power ect, hooked up and seated correctly, i power up still no dang post!!!!
Now I'm thinking ok time to short the CMOS Since it won't post thats what it must be!! i short the cmos boot, nothing no post, once again!!!! :mad: :mad:
So now i'm so desprate i take out cmos battery for 24 hours or so put it back in boot no post.
I've also taken out memory (left in cpu) to try to see if it will post its a no go. I've looked all over the board no bad CAPS (that are visible) no cracks nothing, board seems fine!!
HELP ME PLEASE??? :confused:
Also i've tested monitor on another comp works fine, tested a pci vid card on the comp im having probs with no vid. Vid card is correct Voltage and agp speed for mobo, cpu and all compone's are compatable with mobo (M/B)
The cpu stays around 90 F when it was running. Nothing seems to be over heating. I know this is short but i figured it was needed. someone with the time plz try to help me THANKS A TON!!!.
Mick_D
11-08-2004, 04:39 PM
Could you clarify a few things please? Are you saying you tried to barebones post "without any vid card?
When you tried the PCI vid card did you post? get video? I'm not real clear with what you're saying.
I've tried with and without a video card. the PCI vid card did'nt display any video, and no post. sry about the confusion Mick_D, I'm just very upset with this whole thing. Thanks for the reply!
one of my friends posted this on another board, seems kingston pc1066 isn't what it should be have a read please! http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&frame=right&th=476e5cf2ff7f20e4&seekm=lbto9.76196%24DN4.12029%40sccrnsc01#link1
could this be the problem??
Mick_D
11-08-2004, 11:10 PM
Is this a purchased PC or a build? If purchased, who is the manufacturer? What you have said leads me to think this is a purchased system. You stated you received a new mobo and processor and the same thing happened.
Is the system still under warranty? If so, opening it up and working on it yourself may have cancelled your warranty.
Mick_D
11-08-2004, 11:15 PM
Ok, I read your thread and the links attached.
Do you have access to replace, borrow, any different compatible ram with you mobo?
Mick_D
11-08-2004, 11:20 PM
BTW, one of the reasons I was asking about warranty is componant warranty vs mfg warranty. Many componants have several years (if not lifetime warranty as in some ram) that manufacturers only warrant for one year.
Is this a purchased PC or a build? If purchased, who is the manufacturer? What you have said leads me to think this is a purchased system. You stated you received a new mobo and processor and the same thing happened.
Is the system still under warranty? If so, opening it up and working on it yourself may have cancelled your warranty. warranty is already void! i called cyberpower (my sys manufact) and they told me just to take out all pci cards then boot if it doesn't post/boot then i need to take out memory and vid card if it doesnt post then my MB or cpu is defective. Not much help from them.
Mick_D
11-08-2004, 11:29 PM
You need a minimum of working PSU, CPU, motherboard, one stick of ram, video, and keyboard to make a successful post. However if any of these fail you should get a set of beep codes/error messages indicating the cause of the failure to post. Problems with PSU, CPU, or MOBO can give you nothing.
BTW, one of the reasons I was asking about warranty is componant warranty vs mfg warranty. Many componants have several years (if not lifetime warranty as in some ram) that manufacturers only warrant for one year. Well my memory has a lifetime warranty, my mobo has a 3 year warranty. I'm so confused i don't know what the heck to do now! :/
Mick_D
11-08-2004, 11:36 PM
OUCH! Do you have access to another compatible working mobo to test your CPU in?
If yes you can pretty much say with confidence it's the mobo. But it seems fishy 'IF" they really gave you a "NEW" mobo. Or did they just replace the old one with a different CPU?
You need a minimum of working PSU, CPU, motherboard, one stick of ram, video, and keyboard to make a successful post. However if any of these fail you should get a set of beep codes/error messages indicating the cause of the failure to post. Problems with PSU, CPU, or MOBO can give you nothing. Uh you positive you can use 1 stick of pc1066? I didn't think this was possible i thought you needed atleast 2 sticks of memory and 2 sticks of crimm (4 mem slots) No i have no parts to swap.
OUCH! Do you have access to another compatible working mobo to test your CPU in?
If yes you can pretty much say with confidence it's the mobo. But it seems fishy 'IF" they really gave you a "NEW" mobo. Or did they just replace the old one with a different CPU? They did give me a new M/B well atleast i know it wasnt the same M/B i had also the cpu was new out of box since i opened it (a pro came out and installed it cpu-m/b). I dont have anything to test cpu on. As i stated before i believe the power supply to be fine. also i didn't know you had to have a keyboard, ram or, a vid card in to get a post (atleast i always got this machine to post without mem, and keyboard 3 beeps). I am not trying to fight or disagree with you in anyway just trying my best to problem solve and every post you've made I'm more then greatful for thanks again.
Mick_D
11-08-2004, 11:55 PM
Sorry, I do believe you need two sticks. I get too used to spouting proceedures with the more common sdram vs the rdram you have.
Sorry, I do believe you need two sticks. I get too used to spouting proceedures with the more common sdram vs the rdram you have.HeHe no prob alot of people do! :) I Wouldn't think it was the cpu either but at this point it could be a possibility that ghost's are playing around with my machine. (I'm RACKING my brain here)
Mick_D
11-09-2004, 12:01 AM
Oh yeah...I'm speaking of a successful complete post that allows you to enter the bios setup. I already stated what can be the cause of "no beeps".
Oh yeah...I'm speaking of a successful complete post that allows you to enter the bios setup. I already stated what can be the cause of "no beeps". Thanks for clarifying that, (ruff day had to go to my grandfathers showing) :( so my mobo, cpu or ps is done for? Is there nothing else i can do?
Mick_D
11-09-2004, 12:24 AM
No,...let's both search around and investigate the the known pc1066 issues and see what we can find.
Also there are a lot of contributers on here that may have dealt with your problem before and have the exact solution but just haven't been available to reply yet.
No,...let's both search around and investigate the the known pc1066 issues and see what we can find.
Also there are a lot of contributers on here that may have dealt with your problem before and have the exact solution but just haven't been available to reply yet.Wow I'm so glad people like you exsist that would take time out of their day to help another. Thanks very much Mick_D :).
Mick_D
11-09-2004, 12:49 AM
No problem and I'm happy to do it.
Many, many people on here feel the same way and will help whenever they can. Sometimes it's just a matter of available time per individual.
found this, could it be the M/B needs a patch to run my 2.66 as well as the 2.8? Time to talk to gigabye?
I'm tryinh to build a new system based around the 8IHXP and a 2.8Ghz P4.
> > > > Unfortunately, the board just will not post. The fans spin when i
> press
> the
> > > > power on but there is no display output, beeps or anything. I notice
> on
> the
> > > > gigabyte site that they say you need a bios patch for the 2.8 to be
> > > > detected.
> > > >
> > > > Has any1 successfully installed a 2.8 in one of these boards ? I
> assumed
> the
> > > > board would under-clock the cpu if unsupported, givin me the chance to flash
> > > > the bios ; but i get nothing except a fancy desk-top fan arrangment to keep
> > > > me cool ;)
> > > >
> > > > I have tried reseating the cpus, memory, gfx card and all three power cables
> > > > are connected. I have also tried resetting the bios (shorting pins
> 1+2)
> but
> > > > aint having any luck.
> > > >
> > > > Can any1 help me sort this out ? TIA
> > > >
> > > > ----------------
> > > > Hardware:
> > > >
> > > > Gigabyte 8IHXP Rev 3.0
> > > > P4 2.8Ghz (*533FSB*) S478
> > > > Stock HS+FAN
> > > > 4x128 MB Kingston 1066 RDRAM
> > > > Prophet III GF3 Ti 500
> > > > Coolermaster ATCS-200 case
> > > > Enermax 550W PSU EG651P-VE
Mick_D
11-09-2004, 01:46 AM
Although I am hesitant to compare apples to oranges in a given problem, a call to gigabyte is definately in order and something you should do.
You're running 2.66 (vs.2.8) and you had working display for a short period of time. This problem involves never getting display on this from beginning vs. you having display and then crashing later after running apps. Related? Maybe..but the symptoms don't match..
saphalline
11-09-2004, 06:23 AM
I tend to think your CPU is already supported, indicating you have a more recent BIOS version (http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/BIOS/BIOS_GA-8IHXP%20(Rev%203.0).htm), simply because it worked when you first got it. If your CPU wasn't supported, it wouldn't have worked at all. I'm leaning towards a bad mobo right now given the symptoms, but the CPU might have died, also.
The thing that Gigabyte may be able to do is just replace the mobo. If it's still under warranty, cash it in! If not, a relatively cheap check of a bad CPU is to buy a Celeron! Newegg has a retail Celeron 2GHz (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-112-173&depa=1) for $66. Or you can go thru the hassle of buying a new P4 and returning it if yours still works (I think it does).
I had a mobo die on me once, but the funny thing about mobo's is that they die slowly, like what you're experiencing. At first, I had no problems, just a nice working PC. Then it starting crashing occasionally, then several times a week. When it was crashing once or twice per day with WinXP, I knew I had a problem! Replaced the mobo, all has been well since. Plus, I got an upgrade! :D
The problem with your system is that you have RDRAM, so upgrading your mobo would mean buying DDR RAM, and that loads on extra costs. Having your mobo still under warranty is your cheapest and easiest shot right now.
Mick_D
11-09-2004, 12:35 PM
I agree it's probably a bad mobo but what bothers me is two different boards both cooked in a short period of time with the same symptoms. It would easy to explain if CoR were running an AGP 2x or 4x that had voltage of 3.3. but that doesn't apply here. His radeon 9200 is 8x which is 0.8v and should be fine with this board as it supports 1.5v AGP.
Unless the manufacturer Cyberpower is trying to use previously RMA'd boards buying them at a big discount to cut costs. I think this is definately worth a fight to get a replacement either from Cyberpower or direct from Gigabyte.
Mick_D
11-09-2004, 12:51 PM
Oh, and there are lot of people running 2.8ghz CPU's with 533ghz FSB on this without problems and you were working fine also. Try getting a replacement board directly from gigabyte.
How long did the first board last compared to the replacement?
saphalline
11-09-2004, 04:14 PM
what bothers me is two different boards both cooked in a short period of time with the same symptoms.
Hmmm... good point. I think the mobo is bad, but a better question might be why? How could you have blown through two mobo's in such a short period of time? What brand of PSU are you using? It might be worth it to get a higher quality one, or invest in a UPS with line conditioning. Or perhaps the case has some bit of metal that is shorting them out.
In any case, further investigation may be in order.
Oh, and there are lot of people running 2.8ghz CPU's with 533ghz FSB on this without problems and you were working fine also. Try getting a replacement board directly from gigabyte.
How long did the first board last compared to the replacement?
the first lasted about a year, the replacment only lasted maybe 6 months!
Also let it be known i have no internet connection at my home now, but i will be checking and posting everyother day or everyday if possible!
saphalline Power Supply: Turbo Link Switching PS model CWT-420ATX-12V (420w max) also saphalline i took the m/b out of case.
also i just got gigabytes number i will be calling them sos this comp im on currently suck's! the warranty should be good for mobo, cpu and i know memory is! please stick in here with me! Thanks. :)
saphalline
11-09-2004, 06:09 PM
Power Supply: Turbo Link Switching PS model CWT-420ATX-12V (420w max)
Not the best quality PSU around, so maybe think about replacing it with something better.
also saphalline i took the m/b out of case.
Yes, but only after the problems starting occuring. What if a piece of metal in the case caused all this to begin with?
I've contacted Gigabyte, they sent me prob shooting instructions.
"Hi,
System powers up, but no beep and no post. Please follow the following procedure to diagnose the issue.
No beep, and no post means the CPU, and the board is not transferring any signal codes. In this case, please follow these steps:
1) Please make sure the CPU is seated properly.
2) Check jumper setting for CPU (if applicable) and try to lower CPU frequency if possible.
3) Try to remove all unrelated hardware from the computer such as sound card; modem, NIC, SCSI, and etc.... only leave CPU, CPU FAN Chassis speaker, and the ATX power plug and the power on/off switch (PWRBT). Please make sure that your power supply contains both the main (20 Pin), and the 12V (4 Pin) connectors (For P4 and some AMD CPU M/Bs.). Also please make sure that both connectors are properly connected and are generating the necessary power to the board.
4) Reset the CMOS once - Disconnect the power cord from the power supply & detach the CMOS battery for 10 seconds then put it back. Then try turning the system ON again and check for beep.
5) If the above-mentioned steps fail. Pull the board out from the case and isolate it from the case. And try steps1~5 again.
6) If the above-mentioned steps fail, please try a different processor. It is very much possible that your processor is defective.
Please install only the CPU and CPU cooling fan on the M/B to see if you can hear any beep when the system boots up.
If there is no beep, either the CPU or the M/B might be defective. Please test the CPU on the other system to see if it is functioning properly.
If the CPU is fine, please contact your vendor for diagnosing your M/B or a replacement, if under their warranty. If it"s not, please contact our Customer Service Department at rmausa@giga-byte.com to begin your warranty request.
Thank you "
I'm going to do these steps later today. I'm going to contact my sys manufacturer, for possible mb replacment, and kensigton ( http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=...sccrnsc01#link1 ) tonight also. I will let you guys know how it goes.
PS: Back online for 30 days :)
Mother boards bad. (emailing gigabyte now)
As for the ram this is what i got back.
"The compatibility problems we had with this memory and this motherboard
were due to the BIOS. I suggest you clear the CMOS, reinstall the
memory,
go straight to the BIOS, and manually set the memory speed to 1066.
Make
sure you are installing the memory in pairs and you have CRIMMS for the
empty slots. After you boot up and get everything else taken care of,
update the BIOS. If this still does not work, call our technical
support
center at (800)435-0640. Since we no longer make RDRAM, you will have
to
send it in for repair per our warranty."
Got RMA# from gigabyte they will replace board! all should be fine!
Thanks for your patience and time!
saphalline
11-19-2004, 03:08 AM
Hey, good to see a happy ending to this one! :D
Let us know how the new mobo works. ;)
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