Please. Someone Help! -_-

[TeC]

Hello. I'm currently building a computer which runs an Athlon XP 1800+ CPU and I use an ECS K7S5A motherboard. When I try to get to the POST screen using only the Video Card, RAM, and CPU insterted into the Motherboard. When I hit the power button, I get a series of beeps. It goes :

Beep Beep (Very Quickly)
Then 8 beeps after with even time intervals...

Can someone PLEASE give me an answer to this problem. Please do not link me to the PC Guide webpage, thye are very helpful but I don't see how it relates to me...Thanks.

[TeC]

By the way, I do not get any messages on my monitor. Neither one of my two monitor reconizes that a computer is hooked up to it...

[Whyzman]

Hello TeC,

Welcome to http://www.pcguide.com/ubb/pcgubb.gif Forums!

Is this a newly built system...or one that was working and is not now?

Fans are all turning?

First course of action, I would suggest reseating Video Card and RAM. Sometimes the locking devices can pop them out of contact.


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[TeC]

This is a system I'm build so yes, its new. And yes, All my fans are running...OK, lemme check out the V Card and RAM...

[John0904]

AMI Beep Codes (http://www.pcguide.com/ts/x/sys/beep/ami.htm)

Most likely it's the video card not seating right.

[TeC]

http://rs-clan.netfirms.com/Misc.Pics/Pict0020.JPG
http://rs-clan.netfirms.com/Misc.Pics/Pict0021.JPG

Those are the pictures of the Video card...I can't force it anymore what so ever...

[Whyzman]

What video card are you using?

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[TeC]

Geforce 2 MX400 32MB

[Whyzman]

Who makes the Video card?

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[TeC]

Nvidia.

Btw, those beeps stop when I take out the RAM, so you would think that there is something with the ram only to find out that it starts to beep again (same patern) when I put any other type of RAM in..

[Whyzman]

Nvidia is the chip maker....who is the card Manufacturer?

Also, what type of RAM are you using?


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[This message has been edited by Whyzman (edited 04-05-2002).]

[Rick]

From the PC Guide Link above

2 Beeps: Parity circuit failure
1. Explanation: The parity circuit is responsible for generating and checking the parity bit on the system memory when parity checking is used. This circuitry is not working properly.
Diagnosis: This code usually means a problem with either the system memory or the motherboard.

8 Beeps: Display memory read/write failure
1. Explanation: The BIOS is unable to write to the frame buffer memory on the video card.
Diagnosis: This is usually caused by a problem with the video card, or the memory on the video card. It can also be a motherboard issue.


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[TeC]

Can't say...It was given to me by a friend...Says EliteMT all over it..

[mjc]

It does not really look like that card is completely seated...is the metal tab in the slot (the end that the connector is on)?

Does the screw seat firmly?

Are you sure that the RAM is completely compatible with this motherboard?

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[Whyzman]

TeC,
I can't force it anymore what so ever...

Something is not right if you are having to "force" the card in. It should be snug...but should not need to be "forced" into place.

Look carefully for anything that might have gotten into the slot...or for anything that might be bent.


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[Steve48]

Hello,

It "appears" by your photos that you are trying to use a AGP slot. Could it be that your video card is not an AGP card, or possibly the other way around? If the card is NOT a AGP Video card (PCI), then you will have problems seating it. And if it is an AGP and you are trying to fit it into a PCI slot..again you will have problems. Just a guess from your photos.

[ranchdog]

Your photo show an AGP card in an AGP slot.

That's good as the K7S5A hates the PCI type Video Card. Re-seat
it a few more times.

So lets sort out the memory problem. The K7S5A hates two sticks
of memory. Tried using a single stick? I had a K7S5A that absolutly
would not run on DDR. Had to be SDRAM or nothing. After trying 6
different brands of SDRAM it finally booted-up with Corsair PC150.
Use the first slot (close to the CPU) only.

Another hint. Replace the CMOS battery that came with the board.

Don't expect any help from ECS Tech support as it is non-existant. ECS is owned by PCChips so what else is new?

There was a series of KS75A manuals that were published with a picture
of how to install the CPU. 180 degrees in error!

Ver. 4 and later can cause a lot of grief.

I have a link to a BBS that will be beneficial. I'll go find it
and post it for you.

http://pub65.ezboard.com/bk7s5amotherboardforum


Luck.



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[iisbob]

Hmmmm, this interesting as i've built a total of 6 K7S5A boards now, and i've not has a single issue with any.

All have recognized either SDRAM or DDR when i've used it, two of them are running PCI vid cards with no problem.

I didn't get your pictures of your vid card, but what concern's me is that you may have inadvertanatly tried to force SDRAM memory modules into DDR ram slots; this would cuase the most of the beep codes you've described.

Make sure you have the correct memory sticks in the correct slot's; DDR has only one slot cut into it's bottom, SDRAM has two.

Have too say that i'm still dumbfounded by the reports of the problem's people have had with this board; it's absolutely the easiest one i've ever set up-and i'm running a version 1-3 ( they now have a 4? ).








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[ranchdog]

The DDR slots are Blue and the SDRAM slots are Black. What
I was refering to is using slot #1 of whichever type of RAM
you choose to boot with.

The first quick beeps you get are the POST Code for this board.
And the second series denotes RAM problems.

In the lower left hand corner of the board is a small white sticker
with a # on it. Everyone began refering to this # as the Version
number. In actuality I think this a batch number. ECS has never
explained its true meaning. There is a sticker on the BIOS chip
with a number on it also. The silk screening of a Ver # seems to
have stopped with 3:1. There will be two small xp stickers next
to the ZIF socket. The sticker #4, 5, 6 are mostly what is seen
across the counter today.

I could go on and on about the three I've owned (just to see if I
could make them work) but this is someone else's thread. Albeit
the number of RMA'S with the K7S5A at Fry's and Newegg is alarming.

Luck.

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[TeC]

Alright. Thanks alot for all the suggestions/help. I'll try out what you guys said. My only problem is, I don't know what solution to go with first...

mjc : I can't say for sure if the V Card is completely seated onto the motherboard. When I try a PCI Card (Sound Card), it seats in firmly with no pressure at all what so ever...I can't say if the RAM is compatible with the motherboard that I'm using now. But from what I've read on the RAM and the motherboard, it should be.

Steve48 : The Card is AGP and I'm putting it into an AGP slot.

Ranchdog : I've tried using 1 256MB SDRAM Memory IN the SDRAM slots. Still the same error. Thanks for the link btw.

Thanks again for all the help, its greatly apprecieted.

[This message has been edited by TeC (edited 04-06-2002).]

[setoguro]

I'v read that a lot of the graphics card 'problems' with the S5A have been caused by people not seating the cards properly in the AGP slot; the S5A requires an unusual amount of force to get the card in properly so the mobo accepts it.

[TeC]

I C. I don't wanna break it, thats for sure. But I guess I want it to be seated proberly...

By the way, If I've confused anyone with the beeps that my computer has been making, sorry, I've tried to describe as close as possible, however, I was able to make a short 16 second audio clip of the beeping noise to let you guys know the patern and to decide of the best course of action. The sound clip can be found :
http://rs-clan.netfirms.com/Misc.Pics/Sound001.mp3

Sorry if the volume sounds a bit "dull"... http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/frown.gif

[John0904]

Are you getting you getting the 2 beeps every time after the 8 beeps?
Reason I ask is because the K7S5A will beep before post and another after it detects the hard drive.

If you are getting 2 beeps as well as the 8 beeps each time, then not only is the video card a problem, but so is the system memory. (Or just the motherboard in general).

First thing I would do is to remove the 8 beeps.
Try another video card if possible.
If it works then you can rule out the motherboard as the problem for the video.
Then try your video card on another system just to see if it actually works.

If no video card works in the K7S5A, then it is possible that the board is bad and you will need to return it.

If by chance you do remove the 8 beeps and just have the 2 beeps remaining, then you will need to find memory that is agreeable with the motherboard. Either SDRAM or DDR.

Other than that, nothing else can be done.
Must be frustrating to say the least. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/frown.gif

[setoguro]

TeC I was really nervious about that post. I had a vision of you driving the card in with a hammer. I mean how much force is enough to seat the card and how much is too much. I'd would be really bumbed if becouse of my advice you cracked you motherboard or video card. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/eek.gif You can go here and check out some of posts from others who are having simalar problems. http://www.amdmb.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?s=d2a68d4a1887216b30fccc80b1cad38 4&forumid=24
Good luck.

[TeC]

Hey setoguro,

I took your advice man. Thanks alot dude. It was the G Card, I pushed it in with lotta force and lo and behold, it snapped in. There was an unusal amount of force though http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/frown.gif

I appreciete anyone helping or giving me ideas on what to do. Thanks.

[John0904]

Though we're all here to help and I'm not here to toot my own horn, but that is what I first suggested. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

Glad you got it working all the same.

[setoguro]

your right I only added a small part to the the puzzle. Just glad I could help.