Help Me

[carrot]

Howdy everyone,

I have a big problem that i cant seem to solve (GASP!)
n e way here it is. I have a home network that is wired up all totally screwey. i have a router that conects directly to one computer and to a hub that connects to two other computers. (i dont think that matters but thats what its like) I have 2 computers running winXP and one running (another GASP!) win95 i got the network set up and all and it works good, i can get on the internet from the 95 comp and the 2 xp's and they all can see eachother. BUT when i try to acsess the xp's....it says //ComputerName is unacsesable No permission to access resource. i tried to do the funky user thing where u set a password on the xp then log into that user from the client for microsoft networks. it didn't work (well duh) the weird thing is that i can access the win95 comp from anyware. plus on all my other xp, i can see the network places i assinged, but i can taccess them. n e help would be appreciated. thank

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[classicsoftware]

Forget the wiring. If they can see each other the wiring is ok.

Any OC you log into is a server. Any PC trying to acces another PC is a client. There must be a user name on the server that has a matching user name on the client. They must both have the same password.

[carrot]

im not sure i understand that. would u b so kind as to elaborate

[classicsoftware]

Create a user on each of the XP computers called client. Make the password blank and set the password to never expire.

When you log into the Windows 95 PC when the login box comes up, enter the name as client and leave the password blank.

You will have access to any shared folders on teh XP computers

[carrot]

it didn't work

[classicsoftware]

Do you have anything shared on the XP computers?

Do you have the Windows firewall on?

[Fruss Tray Ted]

95 can't see XP? One word comes to mind,,, NTFS.

[classicsoftware]

FTT, that has nothing to do with it. 95/98 clients have accessed NTFS parttitions for years...... They just cant have them in the same PC.

[carrot]

i did that.... but the weird thing is that when i right click on my computer and go 2 manage, the thing, i think its called local users and groups, anyway, its not there. ive seen it on a another comp so i kow that it should be there, but its not. so i made an account using the control panel thing called Users. i made a user called client but it dodn't work. i also just found out that none of the other comps on my network can acsess this one comp. also when i right click on a folder to share and go to sharing and security. i know there should be a tab called security, but theres not. or maybe its permissions. whatever its called, its not there.

[Fruss Tray Ted]

Classic,
Whut???

When I had my XP that was on the same pc in a dual boot with 98, when booted to 98, if the XP (or any other patitition was NTFS), the drive appeared as if it wasn't even there. And with 9x, the drive letters were easily messed up. In some situations, there would be a gap or two alphabetically.

Are you saying that, as long as the NTFS partition is not on the same drive or in the same pc, that it can be read with 9x? :confused:

[classicsoftware]

The answer to your basic question is yes.

How do you think Windows 9X clients access Windows NT and Windows 2000 servers which have had the NTFS format for many years. It;s the way the network shares the data which is completely different than a drive inside the PC formatted in a manner which the OS does not recognize.

[carrot]

soooo.....

[classicsoftware]

soooo.....

FTT was hoping the NTFS file system was causing the problem.

What flavor of XP do you have home or professional?

[carrot]

i know, he wanted an easy solution, like me. oh well
i have home on two comps and pro on one other and 95 on the last one (sorry about not telling u i had 4 not three) I cant access the pro or one home, but the third home, i can access fine from all comps, even 95. i dont even have to do that weird log-in as the same user name thingey.

[classicsoftware]

What I would like you to do is:

On the XP pro computer, run the networking wizzard and create a disk at the end of the process.

Run the disk on all PC's.

Double check and make sure the Windows Firewall is disabled on all XP computers.

Let us know thw results.

[carrot]

i ran the wizard on the pro comp, it was fine. but it said something about what i was doing was bad because i was connected directly to the internet (I pushed other then this computer conects directly to the internet through a network hub. thats a router i asume) so it didn't want me to enable file and printer shareing, but i did anyway. then i tried to run the netsetup disk on my other xp (home) but i guess my floppy drive was broken or something but i just ran it out of the control panel. then when i got to the 95 machine i tried runing it off the windows CD and it said that it dosn't work on WIN95 so i didn't do anything. i dont think i need to run the wizard on the 95 because i can already access it and everything. also i just noticed, when i try to access the XP's from the 95 (or, for that matter, from anyehere) i get different error messages. the XP home says "No permission to access resourse" and the XP Pro gives me a login field to put in a password. the user name is LAPTOP/IPS$ i tried making a user on that comp then logging into that user, but it didn't work. all firewalls are off.
thanx for helping me get this far :)

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[classicsoftware]

So now all of the XP computers can see each other and communicat and only the Win95 PC is out of the loop?

[carrot]

actully all the computers can all see each other and they can all communicate with the one xp home that they always could. but none of them can communicate with the two that i want.

[Variable]

XP home does Simple File Sharing. Try enabling the guest account on the XP Pro machine you are having problems with, to enable communications with the XP Home box. XP Pro = Right click My Computer, Manage, click and expand Local Users and Groups and enable the "guest" account. Disable and renable the LAN connections on the other machines or reboot them or leave for a bit and come back and refresh Network Neighborhood and cick on the shares.

Networking two XP Home boxes is simple if they have shared files. There is no authentication and no permission problems. So it is likely a firewall or firewall like application. This is assuming they are all on the same network and workgroup.

If you can see the other shared folders and click on them, what error message do you get? You said they could see each other.. or do you mean pings.

The next thing to look at is diabled services. Right click my computer, manage, expand services. Look for disabled ones. Read what they do maybe you have something useful disabled.

In order to diagnose problems you should say whether you can ping the boxes from other boxes, whether they show up in My Network places and what error messages you get.

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[carrot]

when i try to connect to my xp home comp it says:

//Computer name is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to see if you have access permissions.

Access is denied



i already did activate the guest account on the xp pro comp. ti didn't help.
when i try to access the pro comp from the home 1 it said:

//Computer name is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to see if you have access permissions.

This user dosn't have the correct permission to access the computer.

the next time i tried to access it, it said:
//Computer name is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to see if you have access permissions.

A device attached to the network is not functuning.

i tried it again and yet again i got a different message this time it was:

//Computer name is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to see if you have access permissions.

The network device was not found

i thought that maybe my network card was broken, but its not. i know cause i can play starcraft on my LAN and i can't access the pro comp from any of the other comps in my network.

i have a messed up LAN

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[classicsoftware]

Let's just work with XP Pro and Windows 95.

I would like you to create a user on your Windows XP pro computer named test
with NO password.

I would like you to share a folder on your XP Pro computer. Pick any NON-CRITCAL folder. Or make a folder on the C-drive called sharetst.

Once you create the folder, rt click on it an select sharing. Share the folder.

Boot your Windows 95 PC and when the login screen comes up, login with the user name of test and no password.

Go to network neighborhood on the Windows 95 PC and let us know what appears there.

[carrot]

i did that and i got the error message that the share name couldn't be found.
i have an idea. a few days ago the internet went down on the two computers i have behind the hub and router, but not on the one behind just the router. that might be it.

[classicsoftware]

What appears in Network Neighborhood on the Windows 95 PC?

How many ports on the router?

If it's a 4 port router, why use a hub?

I habe an old original Linksys 1 port router so I need a hub to connect 7 PC's to the router.....

[Variable]

On the XP Pro box open a shared folder, in the Tools menu click Folder options, View, scroll to the bottom and you will see Use Simple File Sharing. Check this box. An XP pro computer expects authentication to let something access anything it has shared. XP Home does not send any authentication credentials. Make sure the shared media has the Everyone group. Guest will be under that. You will not have a permissions issue error between two XP Home boxes unless the share permissions are too restricted, since they don't send any credentials. They use the Guest account.

[carrot]

k, here is what i did. i checked use simple file shareing, i logged in with the user the same as on the xp pro box, and i TRIED to make sure the shared media on the xp home box had the everyone group, but i couldn't find anything like that.


the reason i have a hub attached to a four port router is because my router is on my main floor, but the two computers (a winXP home and the 95) are in one room and i had to string a 100 foot cable to reach the room. i only wanted to string on cable so i put a hub at the end and hooked up the two computers in that room. on the 95 PC i see 3 computers in the network neighborhood. one xp home, the xp pro, and the 95 itself.

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[classicsoftware]

Can you double click on any of the three PC's in Network Neighborhood and tell us what happens.

[carrot]

there are four PC's in the network neighborhood on the 95 tonight because my dad brought his laptop home. it dosn't happen very often. his laptop is a XP home and can be accessed by any comp so its fine.

now... when i double click on the XP pro comp in the network neighborhood it takes a looooong time then it says:

//Computer name is not accessible

Computer of sharename could not be found. Please be sure you spelled it corectly and try again.

when i double click on on the first XP home comp (the one thats usully there) it immediently (well not immedently, but u get it) says

//Computer name is not accessible

No permission to access resource

when i double click on the other XP home comp (the one that isn't usully here) it works fine

when i double click on the windows 95 comp itself it works (big humongous DUH!)

sorry for not telling u i had 4 comps (or maybe i did....... oh well)


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[Variable]

For share permissions right click a shared folder and click Sharing and Security, then click Permissions. It should have the Everyone group and the Read permissions to view it.

If you use simple file sharing you don't need to use the same user and and pass because it doesn't send credentials anyway. Using them certainly won't hurt, but it is not necessary. If you are using SFS and still cannot conenct it is probably a software firewall or a router not allowing sharing. Assuming you have everything set correctly. Usually, the first mistake people make when having a networking issue is changing too many things at one time. This can compound a basically simple process into a nightmare of guessing issues.

[carrot]

when i right click on a shared folder and go to sharing a security, it dosn't have a permissions button or tab or whatever.

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[carrot]

where did everybody go?
does anyone have anymore ideas?

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[carrot]

It ended up being a corupted registry entry. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE-->SYSTEM-->CurrentControlSet-->Control-->Lsa
the key restrictanonymous was set to "1" apperently it has to be set to "0"