Free stuff

[Suchy]

Everybody sees those annoying adds, that claim that you won something.

But is it acctualy possible to get the free laptop, ipod, psp... for example if on complates all the requirements, or is this all BS?

[pop pop]

I don't know personally. And I definitely don't know about the laptops. I have heard people here (members) say either they got the iPods or they knew someone who did...but it was a real pain and took a long time. I think IXL, the site owner was one.

[Sylvander]

Why would you want something for nothing anyway? :(

In a sensible world, everyone works to produce goods and services and then are given a just share of those.
If some people get without giving, then the rest are having to do more to carry their dead weight.
Not a good arrangement.

[pop pop]

Sylvander,

Your hearts in the right place, man.

But those people aren't giving stuff away for nothing. You effectively market for them and whan you've done the right amount of marketing, you get the prize. It's quid pro quo. Not free.

[Sylvander]

I'm not keen on the lottery culture where people are led to HOPE for something for nothing.
And this is the bait that keeps them GIVING more than they get.

Don't you think THEY treat us like we are idiots?
Like there's one born every minute?
I see the TV adverts and think they must have a very low opinion of the general public.
Like a dum-assed herd.
"Get 'em up, move 'em out......RAWHIDE."

[Steve]

I don't know anyone for who this has worked. A couple of guys I know started it but gave up after a while. Nothing is free. Even a lottery ticket costs a buck... ;)


In a sensible world, everyone works to produce goods and services and then are given a just share of those.
If I work to produce goods and services, why wouldn't my just share be all of what I have produced?

[Sylvander]

"why wouldn't my just share be all of what I have produced?"
Aha, now this is where it begins to get complicated.
If you spent all of your weekly wage or monthly salary on goods and services, would you receive more or less than the goods and/or services you produced in that time?
It can be quite difficult to calculate the worth/value of the things you produce as opposed to what you are paid.
Take a nation:
Almost everyone produces useful things [some don't]. Consider the total of all those things. Then take them and share them out [by selling them]. Some get more than they deserve and others less perhaps.
In the workplace, workers produce, are given money, then go out and buy part of the total. Some workers are considered valuable and are well paid, others less valuable are low paid. The value of the total wage bill should equal the total value of all goods and services. Then wages and prices are in balance and there is no inflation.

[Steve]

If you spent all of your weekly wage or monthly salary on goods and services, would you receive more or less than the goods and/or services you produced in that time?
Well, I suppose I would receive about the same. :confused:

[FrankSG]

This is gettin' complicated...What was the question? I forget...

[Steve]

originally posted by Sylvander
Aha, now this is where it begins to get complicated.
originally posted by FrankSG
This is gettin' complicated...
Sorry if I strayed from the topic. I was just trying to engage Sylvander on the secondary subject which he brought up.

I hope to continue the discussion. :)

[FrankSG]

Sorry if I strayed from the topic. I was just trying to engage Sylvander on the secondary subject which he brought up.

I hope to continue the discussion. :)
That's OK, Steve--I was just joking. :)

[Sylvander]

LOTTERY
These use peoples "greed" against them.
The lure of huge gain for no effort [getting without giving], to induce people to hand over their [hard earned?] share of the "Gross National Product", only [in the great majority of cases] to get NOTHING in return.
Perhaps the people who do this figure that greedy people deserve to be "tricked" into giving without getting, by promising they will get without giving.
Here in the UK, the Labour govornment is making such people pay for most of societies' "good works".

In the case SUCHY quotes, a "free prize" is the lure.

[hockey man]

It comes down to people want to get stuff without paying any price for it :rolleyes: . So gready people devise plans to trick the unwise folks into trying to get their "free" thing; only to trap them. As for the uk's government, they are becoming very socialistic :mad: . This happens when the people lose there morals and no longer believe that those who work hard should be rewarded. They want everyone to be equal. Yes, in a free economy some lazy and gready people will make it to the top, but all in all, things equal out. If your total goal in life is to watch t.v., why should you make the same as a brain surgon? People are lazy :rolleyes: -thats why these things are out there.

[Steve]

I sure agree about the tendency toward greed and the result of that weakness. What I found intriguing was Sylvanders comment that after producing goods and services you are given a just share. I thought that he was implying that your just share might be different from the value of the goods and services that you produced.

[streetballa9999]

My mom got a free ibook, but you have to subscribe to a bunch of things and it ends up costing about 100 dollars, and takes forever.