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sia
08-28-2005, 09:36 AM
It's better not to upgrade your PC hardware for at least seven months, Because we are now on the 64-bit bridge.

classicsoftware
08-28-2005, 09:37 AM
I could not disagree more. Most users will not need the 64 bit. Not all software will take care of it. So if you need a new PC folks, buy or build one now. :D

123456
08-28-2005, 10:42 AM
Yeah. The processor speed for Intel hasn NOT hanged, (except the Extreme editions and Dual-Core), in a long time.

sia
08-29-2005, 11:45 AM
I don't mean 64-bit is very good. But I think it will fill market in one year.
Programs will be 64 and 32 will be old. But it is not important. I said wait because
64 bit is new and many bugs are in it and it's softwares.
I am realy speaking to whom wants to buy a 64 bit system to wait for debug.

Erik
08-30-2005, 12:52 AM
A 64 bit processor doesn't mean a faster processor. They just allow for more addressing space, unless you have programs and OSs that take advantage of that it is wasted. If you need it it is great, if not it is a waste. I doubt that there will be a huge increase in the sales of 64 bit processors anytime soon.

saphalline
08-30-2005, 02:55 AM
If you're in the market for a mid-range or high-end system, getting a 64-bit CPU isn't a waste - it just won't be used for awhile. ;) Not to mention the fact that at the high-end, there's really no way to avoid 64-bit capable CPU's.

I do agree that the best time to buy/build a new system is whenever you have the money! Sometimes it's prudent to wait up to 2-3 months for something new coming around the bend, but usually this only applies to gamers. Upgrades are a whole different beast and need to be taken on a case-by-case basis for non-core-removal. :cool:

sia
08-30-2005, 07:33 AM
A 64 bit CPU will be also faster in some aspects (more and wider registers,flat memory addressing, some new technologies, etc)

Intel and AMD are working on 64bit and they will stop producing 32bit CPUs (It seems there is a cooperation between them because EMT64 is very similar to AMD64).
You can not find a 32bit CPU in next years(You can't find a 16bit CPU today).

If you have a lot of money and don't want to save it, yes buy a new system.
But it's better to wait for programers and debugers to optimize their program for new technologies.
It's better to open a new thread for discussing about 64bit benefits.(Does any exists?)

rond36
08-31-2005, 12:34 AM
A 64 bit CPU will be also faster in some aspects (more and wider registers,flat memory addressing, some new technologies, etc)

Intel and AMD are working on 64bit and they will stop producing 32bit CPUs (It seems there is a cooperation between them because EMT64 is very similar to AMD64).
You can not find a 32bit CPU in next years(You can't find a 16bit CPU today).

If you have a lot of money and don't want to save it, yes buy a new system.
But it's better to wait for programers and debugers to optimize their program for new technologies.
It's better to open a new thread for discussing about 64bit benefits.(Does any exists?)

Intel processors with EM64T and AMD64 processors will run 64bit, 32bit, and even 16bit and 8bit programs it depends on what OS you are running and if the program was written take advantage of the new technologies.

Just because a processor will run 64bit doesn't mean it will stop running 32bit, 16bit, or 8bit MS-DOS programs such as Fdisk and Format

saphalline
08-31-2005, 12:35 AM
It's better to open a new thread for discussing about 64bit benefits.(Does any exists?)If anyone wants to start one, I will chip in what I know. There are many many doors that have been opened in just this short thread, ranging around all the topics of CPU design, bit-width operations, how EM64T and AMD-64 work, how they differ from other 64-bit instruction sets, and overall future CPU trends. Discussing one of these topics is bad enough, but smashing them all together!? :eek: :D

sia
08-31-2005, 03:34 AM
It should be in core hardware.
I will open it.

sia
09-03-2005, 03:03 PM
Come to core hardware to discuss more.

sia
09-03-2005, 03:04 PM
Core Hardware >> 64 bit CPU