i have a question about the new AMDS

[soupnatizzle]

before that i would just like to know one thing, say i bought a high end alienware "gaming" laptop, i need a laptop for school in a few years and it cost me lets say 3000 dollars if i where to buy a 3000 dollar PC how much better of a machine could i get for the same amount of money, so PC vs LAPTOP is it even worth spending that on a lpatop of should i just get a desent 800 dollar laptop and sink the rest of my money into a badass PC


Here is a link to what im talking about (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103608)

it says is a 1ghz but i know AMD enouph to know that that means very little in speed and performence, so in conparasson to what i have, AMD sempron 3000+ how fast is this CPU i mean its new tech, its said to be among the best out right now but now fast is it

and also a little off topic but what is the diffrence between a IDE cable HDD and a SATA and now much faster is the SATA

PS im just trying to under stand this newer technology that is out right now, im planning on buying a new PC around xmass next year when windows vista is released hopfuly the prices will drop in these considerabley but then.

[Rick]

First and formost
In your sig you have

RADEON 9200 series video card
AMD Sempron 3000+ 2.0ghz
256mb memory/ram
ASUS A7V8X-X MOBO



My ?? is why ONLY 256 ram ?
that is a bit low..
Double or quadruple that amount and you will not need a new system for awhile

To answer the question about laptop game system and desktop system.
The Only reason I see for spending that much $$ on a laptop is bragging rights

The money would get you much more if invested in a desktop system

Note here please that I am not a gamer
But for that much $$ I’d build two systems
One for the desk and one for lan parties or game sessions and still come out ahead

[saphalline]

The RAM upgrade is being addressed in another thread.

Gaming laptops tend to be heavy if you want an awesome one like an Alienware or something. They come with all the bells & whistles, including large screens, fast hard drives, and big heavy batteries for a decent amount of runtime on the go. They are durable enough for common school duties, but very large and bulky. Lugging around a laptop heavier than 6-7 lbs will have you cursing in the hallways within a month! Not to mention, what the heck would you do if it got stolen? :eek: $3000 just gone... I wouldn't trust a laptop that expensive in a college environment. For these reasons alone, I would suggest you get a budget laptop and spend the rest on a desktop.

And remember that desktops don't need to be heavy, either. One of those little small form-factor cube cases designed for mobile gamers would be awesome. Or a standard ATX mini-tower made out of aluminum. My steel ATX full-tower is really frickin' heavy, probably half the weight of my entire system, but those smaller aluminum cases are a fraction of that. If you go with an ATX mini-tower, you also have the advantage of all standard parts. Standard PSU, standard mobo size (although a micro-ATX would fit better), standard drive bays. The only things you give up are sheer space for drives and airflow (which can easily be fixed by choosing a smaller case with 120mm fans).

The almighty FX-60 is not a 1 GHz CPU, it runs at 2.6 GHz. And it's dual-core. It's difficult to fully measure the performance difference between your Sempron 3000+ and the FX-60 (it depends on the benchmark used) but between the new microarchitecture, 64-bit support, faster speed, onboard memory controller, and the fact that it's dual-core, I'd say it's roughly 4 times as powerful as your CPU. Now it won't always be 4 times as fast, but the potential performance and technology gaps between the two point towards that figure. In terms of gaming and/or multi-tasking, the FX-60 is really powerful, but you'll have to check out the benchmarks to get a clear idea of just how powerful it is (I can't explain it very well without getting technical).

IDE cables are 40/80-wire ribbon cables. They are the most common cable most of have seen. These are the IDE cables that carry the data, and they are much bigger than the 4-pin molex power connectors that plug into drives. SATA cables, however, are thin cables about 1cm (or less) in width. They are much easier to route and less likely to constrict airflow inside a case. That's a basic description of the cables themselves. The ATA and SATA protocols are a bit different...

ATA/133 was the last ATA version ratified for IDE hard drives. It provides up to 133 MBps of peak bandwidth and the standard master/slave arrangement for two drives per IDE channel. SATA 1.0 was the first version of SATA, and provides up to 150 MBps of peak bandwidth. SATA 300 is the latest "version" and provides up to 300 MBps of peak bandwidth. In addition to faster max throughputs, SATA also has a number of other benefits, such as no more master/slave - all SATA hard drive have their own channel and can transmit all at once. SATA also allows many more ports to be added as the chipset can handle them - so far we have chipsets that can support 4 SATA 300 ports, with more on the way. SATA has some queuing and I/O request advancements, too, but I won't bore you with all that. Just trust me that SATA is better! :D

[rond36]

The processor that you linked to is not a 1GHz processor

AMD Athlon 64 FX60 Toledo 1GHz HT 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor

When choosing a processor read all of the specs not just the description

Core: Toledo

Multi-Core: Dual-Core (it has 2 processors on 1 chip with 2 memory controllers)

Name: Athlon 64 FX60

Operating Frequency: 2.6GHz

HT: 1GHz (frequency of the Hyper Transport buss between the processor and the on chip memory controller)

L1 Cache: 128KB+128KB (128KB for each processor)

L2 Cache: 2 x 1MB (1MB for each processor)

Process Type: 90 nm

Hyper-Transport Support: Yes

64 bit Support: Yes (it supports AMD 64, Windows XP Pro 64 bit operating system, and 64 bit applications)

Multimedia Instruction: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, 3DNOW! Professional

Voltage: 1.30-1.35V

Cooling Device: Heatsink and Fan (it is a retail box processor)

Manufacturer Warranty: 3-Year ( if it was an OEM processor it would have a 1 year warranty and would not include a heatsink and fan)

This is the fastest desktop processor on the market!!! That is why the price is $1015.00

It is roughly 2.5 to 3 maybe 4 times faster than your AMD sempron 3000+


Maybe I should refresh my browser more often :D

[soupnatizzle]

wow thanks for the help, answered alot of my questions very well. sorry for there being so many i kinda think about things for a while then just post a bunch of questions all at once