Athlon 266 Bus CPU on KT133 mb

[Bokus]

Will a 1Ghz T-Bird 266 work OK on my MSI K7T-PRO KT133 motherboard?
My CPU blew and I need a replacement now, but I want the 266 for a future board upgrade.

[Paleo Pete]

Check the motherboard manual.

At Wim's BIOS (http://www.ping.be/bios/) you can find info on identifying the motherboard, with links to many of the manufacturers. Check the BIOS brand and scroll down the list to find the company, since you already know what board it is.

The Motherboard/BIOS section at Trish's (http://www.hardwarehell.com) should have good links to other very useful resources.

If you already have a manual for the motherboard, check it, you should find a list of supported CPUs in the first few pages.

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[ranchdog]

As I read page 1-2 of my K7T Pro Manual (thru my bifocals) it states: 200MHz Internal System Bus. Soooo-- that makes the answer lean toward's the no-no side. Just my 2 copper coins. (1943 they were lead)



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[AwARe]

According to MSI
KT7 Pro
MODEL: MS-6330

revision: 1 with BIOS version: W6330MS19
is currently validated for the following processors:
Note that only the highest speed is shown. If not otherwise indicated, the lower speed processors have already been validated.

AMD Athlon (Thunderbird, Socket A) 1200MHz
AMD Duron ( Socket A) 850MHz
http://www.msicomputer.com/support/CPUStatus/CPUStatus.asp?ProductID=139

Updated manual can be found here http://www.msi.com.tw/support/manual/6xxx/6330/6330-10b.zip

Updated BIOS can be found here http://www.msi.com.tw/support/bios/mainboard/6xxx/6330/6330.htm

That board isnt going to utilize the full potential of the CPU, but it appears it can be used.............

Hope this helps......

[This message has been edited by AwARe (edited 05-27-2001).]

[ranchdog]

The KT7 Pro (6330) updates that are available with MSI are in reference to the 200 FSB CPU's. The Turbo model is the one that came out as 266 FSB. Your post ask would your Bird "work OK." That's why I previously posted "lean."

[AwARe]

Dog,

You are correct, and were correct all along, about the fsb......

I only posted because he "can" still use that CPU on that board......

I didnt mention the fsb because I kinda thought you already provided that info and as well it says it on the pages I gave links to.....

But its only going to give 200mhz fsb..........

Which is why I stated "That board isnt going to utilize the full potential of the CPU, but it appears it can be used............."

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PS In 1943 my coins were still in my daddy's shorts! hahaha

[This message has been edited by AwARe (edited 05-28-2001).]

[Bokus]

Thanks guys, I couldn't find any specific information on this from Athlon, VIA, or MSI. Would I be correct in assuming that the performance on my board would about the same is if I were using a 1Ghz 200 FSB chip?

[AwARe]

Bokus,

You may or may not be able to get it to run at 1ghz

It is entirely posible you may be stuck with 750mhz for example.......

My only point was, you "can" use that cpu in that board until you can afford a new board......as far as what youre going to be able to get out of it, I have no idea.........

Try posting on some of the "Over Clocking" forums........
Those guys should be able to tell you better how and if you can get it up to speed.........

I read a post from a guy that had a similar board and a 1.3 TBIRD that he could only get it to run at 1.1 on that board. Then he got a new board and cranked it up to 1500mhz, so it might be worth living with what you get til you can afford the new board.........but thats "your" decision heh

Hope this helped..........
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[ranchdog]

Everybody's Happy Here. Just living by Pete's Golden Rule. *No Pi^^ing Contest's Allowed* Best case scenerio -- Under Clocking situation. Worst case -- BIOS conflict's and the Mboard scratch's it's head and does weird things. (I guess that's what they scratch) CPU recognition is basically Plug and Play on this board. Can ease around in BIOS can change things a little. Think about the multiplier and FSB compatability of each chip. The 200 Tbird chip is 10 x 100 for 1Gig. The 266 Tbird chip is 7.5 (about) x 133 for a 1Gig. The 200 Mboard is a "double-up" 100MHz FSB for the chip. And uses 100PC RAM. 266 Mboard is a "double-up" 133MHz for the chip. And uses 133PC RAM. Hell I got myself confused! Anyway-- AwARe Hit it best. Gonna give you a little less than 750MHz when you plug'er in. May have to go into BIOS and lower the Core Voltage a tad. If she runs stable don't worry about it. 'Cause you're giving up 66MHz FSB speed so that you can use Tbird #2. Hang in there. ==In 1943 I don't think my Papa wore any shorts== http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[AwARe]

LOL.......DOG http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Bokus]

I can live with a performance hit, the issue is avoiding the expenditure on an "interim" CPU, while I wait to see how well the 266/761 chipsets mature and whether they will significantly outperform KT133A (I don't have a spare system, I'm having to beg time on a friend's to post this). If it's slow but works, great, if it's too buggy then I guess I'll have to shell out $50 for a Duron and chalk one up to experience.
I think the performance of this board:

http://www.hardocp.com/new_img_01/may/abit_kg7_pr.html

could turn out to be the decision maker as to which way I'm going to jump.

BTW, any thoughts on the KT133A vs 266/761 issue, gentlemen?

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[AwARe]

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My only thoughts on any of these kinds of issues are pretty much limited to the simple fact that, I find myself furtunate enough to own a fast enough system, that will allow all parties involved to sort all these issues out including "intel's" next move "before" Im going to need a faster comp......heh

It may be entirely posible that I will have to break down and buy a little bit of pc133 ram so I can successfully OC this 600 to 850 before its all over with, but for now Im just gonna sit back and watch............. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

One thing I do know is......I could really use a Comp that runs so fast it creats a small gravitational field in my living room lmao, but before we get there, "allot" is going to, and needs to, change.......

Good Luck with that TBIRD!

[This message has been edited by AwARe (edited 05-30-2001).]

[Randy_tx]

As long as the mobo supports the clock speed utilized by a 200 fsb then you should be able to get to 1 gig. You will never know the difference in "real apps" between the 200 & 266 bus. In fact, you can only gain 10% with DDR ram [not much when you are at those speeds]. The AMD 760 chipset is slightly better than the KT133; however, it may not be around very long...AMD is not too excited about being in the chipset business.

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[ranchdog]

Originally posted by AwARe:
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My only thoughts on any of these kinds of issues are pretty much limited to the simple fact that, I find myself furtunate enough to own a fast enough system, that will allow all parties involved to sort all these issues out including "intel's" next move "before" Im going to need a faster comp......heh

It may be entirely posible that I will have to break down and buy a little bit of pc133 ram so I can successfully OC this 600 to 850 before its all over with, but for now Im just gonna sit back and watch............. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif

One thing I do know is......I could really use a Comp that runs so fast it creats a small gravitational field in my living room lmao, but before we get there, "allot" is going to, and needs to, change.......

Good Luck with that TBIRD!

[This message has been edited by AwARe (edited 05-30-2001).]

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