A question about legal stuff.

[i an not a nerd]

Hey all,

I have a friend (aka not me) that has a 9800 pro that he screwed over (ripped off the main chipset and glued it back on.) He wants to replace it with a x800 pro. He then wants to put an aftermarket heatsink on the x800pro and put the x800pro heatsink on the 9800pro, and then return it to Futureshop as a x800pro. I am attempting to discourage him, but he just says "Even if they don't fall for it, what can they do?" That is what I need some help with. What can/would a store do if someone attempts to return something that is not what they claim it is.

Any help here would be appriciated,

MikeB

[saphalline]

The shop can call the police and charge your friend with stealing! :eek: That's essentially what it is since your friend bought the X800 and is thinking about returning it with another (broken) vid card in it. So if he's getting something for nothing, that's stealing. There might even be a few other charges related to mis-representation on the consumer's end of things (or even banning him permanently from the store), but at the very least there's the stealing/shoplifting charge. This would go on your friend's permanent record and could follow him for a good long time...

The repercussions right now might not be so bad if they catch him, but I've known a few people who did stupid things in their youth and never got away from it. It sounds cliche to say that this could ruin his whole life, but the fact of the matter is that I've seen it happen to a few people. It's not cliche anymore once you've seen it with your own eyes. It's not a guarantee for your friend, but stealing never looks good when you're trying to find a job.

If he really wants to screw someone over, tell him to sell it on EBay! :p It's been proven many times over that even when you tell the truth (ie, "broken 9800 with X800 HSF slapped on it") there will always be someone out there who will get confused and bid on it as it were a real X800. :rolleyes:

[mjc]

Also, it is very likely he would be asked to never grace the store with his presence again...

[PrntRhd]

It is called "theft by deception" and it is likely a crime. I never understand people who complain they deserve consumer protections from stores, then try to pull stuff like this.

[i an not a nerd]

Thanks to all. Unfortuantly, he still thinks that they won't do anything... Well I tried.

Thanks once again for helping me try and mount a resonable arguement.

MIkeB

[classicsoftware]

It's time for a new friend. Sooner or later you will get caught up in one of his schemes and you will get in trouble.


Your friend is a thief and and a-hole to boot.

[Whyzman]

Isn't there a commandment that goes something like "Thou shalt not steal?" People can be fooled as to the true character of a man...there is someone who knows and will ultimately judge the thoughts and intents of the heart...

Not a wise move to mess with The Man! ;)

[i an not a nerd]

It's time for a new friend.

Well, hes not a friend really, more of this guy that keeps asking me about computers... Ah, the torments of being a computer geek...

Not a wise move to mess with The Man!

I agree!

[FrankSG]

I'm glad to hear you say that he's really not a friend because with friends like that, you don't need many enemies. I'd tell him the question isn't what would the store do to him, but it's what what it would it do to his own self-esteem even if he did get away with it. Here's the thing: Life is like a boomerang; what you through out will always come back. As they say, "There ain't no free lunch." In the book, The Struggle Within, the author states, "No man can escape his inner responsibilities; all actions must be in accord with inner laws which are unalterable. We pay for any action based on self-interest at the expense of another's happiness. Whenever we take more than we give, we pay for it. Not one error is committed within the realm of divine law without a corresponding payment for it being levied." I'm not saying that I've never made the mistake of trying to get something for nothing. I also need to be reminded of that. So, I'm not preaching--just saying what I've learned from experience.

[Windsurfer]

Well, hes not a friend really, more of this guy that keeps asking me about computers... Ah, the torments of being a computer geek...

Ouch man! not a friend! That hurts deep!

And to think the guy that's failing programming class is implying that he's more of a geek or n3rd than me! (the guy who's getting 99.7%!)

Okay, guys, yeah, it may be stealing. That would be why I didn't do it. I never got it replaced, I was only thinking about it. I was hearing that Sapphire was accepting cards for 3 years after purchase, but for the card to be replaced it would have taken months shipping... anyways, it never happened. I'm still stuck with the busted card.

Happy?

[Whyzman]

Okay, guys, yeah, it may be stealing. That would be why I didn't do it. There may be hope for the world yet! ;)

[FrankSG]

O.K. I take back what I was thinking about the friend. I think I jumped on him to quick. Sorry 'bout that. :)

[classicsoftware]

Okay, guys, yeah, it may be stealing. That would be why I didn't do it. I never got it replaced, I was only thinking about it. I was hearing that Sapphire was accepting cards for 3 years after purchase, but for the card to be replaced it would have taken months shipping... anyways, it never happened. I'm still stuck with the busted card. Happy?

I think thou protesteth too much.

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