Vista out for pre-order

[jlreich]

Amazon has it for pre-order. It's supposed to be released Jan. 30th.

:rolleyes:

[dafink]

Fact that it's already been reported to have holes and needs patching isn't a good thing, but as the maker of the biggest os on the planet, it's like having a bullseye to your head.

I do think that in terms of technology and innovation that it'll be like the step up from Win 3.1 to 95, possibly even bigger.

Fully supporting dual core and that new Aero interface sounds great from all the reviews i've heard...long as you have a pc good enough to support it all.

Regardless, I probably wouldn't get it till SP1 just for all the bug fixes and security fixes and all that that'll be patched in the upcomming months.

I've so wanted to play Halo 2 which will require Vista but for me it's not worth an untested as of yet os.

[jlreich]

I had the Vista 64bit beta2 on my system for quite awhile. I decided to to wipe it and do a clean install of RC1 32bit. Well not long after I installed it I can no longer get into the control panel or system properties. :mad: :rolleyes:

I think has something to do with one of the programs I installed but not for certain. It may have been a windows update.

I will do a fresh install again when I get the chance. Maybe I will install the 64bit version of RC1 this time. I have both 32 and 64bit, I just decide for some reason unknown to me to try the 32bit this time.

Oh well. :rolleyes:

I will say the install only took about 25-30 minutes.

[dafink]

I heard the installation isn't that long, good thing but for me the XP installation never took that long either.

It'd say 40 min left or 25 and then suddenly it'd finish with that step, not that I minded much lol

The last RC of Vista was supposed to be pretty good, don't want that one installed?

[jlreich]

The last RC of Vista was supposed to be pretty good, don't want that one installed?
I don't think it is available anymore. Every link to download it goes to the Vista main page.

I should have got while it was available, but I had lost interest in it at the time.

[johnny_quest]

So for the cheaper "upgrade" versions... will they just ask you your COA, and perform a full installation, or are you going to have to install XP, and install vista ontop... which I'm sure will plague you with problems in the future?

[jlreich]

http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=pe_pe_14170_4409930_amb_link_4124112_2?ie=UTF8 &node=203102011

Click on the different version to see the prices. There are the upgrade versions and the full versions.

[deddard]

Differences in prices?!
If you want differences in prices, check out the difference between US and UK prices (taken from Amazon)

Vista Home Basic UK £179.99 ($348.12) US $193.99
Vista Home Premium UK £219.99 ($425.49) US $229.99
Vista Business UK £289.99 ($560.85) US $282.99
Vista Ultimate UK £369.99 ($715.57) US $379.99

Vista Home Basic UG UK £99.99 ($193.38) US $98.99
Vista Home Premium UG UK £149.99 ($290.08) US $154.99
Vista Business UG UK £189.99 ($367.38) US $282.99
Vista Ultimate UG UK £249.99 ($483.38) US $249.99

I can just see everyone in the UK running out to grab this stuff:mad:

[pave_spectre]

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium DVD (Retail Box), Pre-Order, $AU 409.00 (£165.147 , $US 319.570)

pffft, no chance even if I actually wanted it.

[deddard]

I just saw the OEM prices, which aren't too bad compared to XP.
OEM Vista Ultimate is £115 including VAT from ebuyer.

Of course, we all know that is expensive considering what you actually get (as well as the recent news that MS charges the big PC sellers about $50 for a copy of windoze) but it is only about £20 more than XP Pro OEM

[Mini-Me]

I won't be going anywhere near Vista for some time yet. Primary reason is the usual MS profitering with the price-per-copy of the thing.

...especially when it looks like most people who actually want to run Vista, will have to replace their entire nexus of computer hardware in order to run the $@%@ thing - it feels very much like a step backwards to me...

OS's should be faster to run on the current hardware, if the thing was coded right, but lets face it: "Wintel" tend to peddle the market as fast as they can.
:(

Any of you remember the brilliant QNX demo-disk?
This was a fully functional point-and-click GUI, hardware auto-detection, a web-browser and other demo applications, all running off a bootable 1.44MB floppy disk!

...now THAT was coding at it's finest.
:)

Especially now-days, what with PCI-e graphics cards, a window should be able to be drawn instantly, with no delay at all, but every new release of Windoze seems to be a situation of "One step forward, two steps back" in that the latest, greatest MS OS offering, will run worse on your existing system then XP.

It makes no sence to me, as you honestly do not need 2GHz of processing power, to draw windows and open apps, so why is the thing so slow?

Perhaps I am biased, as I only tried their downloadable beta version.

Things might have improved in the final - but I doubt it.

*sigh*

[mjc]

Any of you remember the brilliant QNX demo-disk? This was a fully functional point-and-click GUI, hardware auto-detection, a web-browser and other demo applications, all running off a bootable 1.44MB floppy disk!

...now THAT was coding at it's finest.
:)

I was looking through my archives of downloads, a couple of days ago...and found the download for it...been thinking of getting a couple of floppies and make a new disk.

[Mini-Me]

When you use this disk, it is amazing to see what really can be fitted on a 1.44MB bootable floppy...

OK purists, the QNX boot-floppy is a packed system, in that it expands itself into memory once loaded, so technically it is larger then 1.44MB, but the concept behind fitting all that onto one bootable disk still amazes me to this day...

[Paul Komski]

so technically it is larger then 1.44MBI think that's a semantic point. With all forms of compression one can quote either the packed or the unpacked size of the bundle. Performance usually takes a hit with compression though sometimes it can be improved (especially when it comes to compression for data transfer purposes as with image files and with modem transmission).

Bart has a modular way (http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/modboot/) of customising ones own boot floppies largely done using customised cab files which are expanded as needed.

[Galaxian]

i have vista ultimate retail (full)
i havnt found any problems with it whatsoever, it runs very fast and games i tried work well

i only had to install 4 drivers compared to 8 in xp
readyboost is interesting, not sure hwo to partition my usb though and just use 1 for readyboost

i think the majority of user problems is likely beta drivers/generic hardware and things of the like

[jlreich]

Which games have you tried?

[Galaxian]

ms flight simx oblivion and fear
i have tons more games but no reason for me to bother as i never play them
and i'm uninsalling fear as i dont play it no more either

i'm guessing the ubisoft games that had starforce in them wont work in vista

[Mini-Me]

I think that's a semantic point. With all forms of compression one can quote either the packed or the unpacked size of the bundle.

Well, it may in fact be so, however, if I had not said that, no doubt someone here would have mentioned the fact that it is a packed system, and critisize my saying it fits on 1.44MB!!!!
:D

[Paul Komski]

LOL - no doubt someone probably would have!