View Full Version : Upgrading a BabyAT to standard AT
Alejandro
05-24-2002, 10:25 AM
Is this possible? I have a Baby AT case and in my motherboard specifications it says that it's form factor is:
Baby AT, 4 layers
25cm x 22cm
9.84 inch. x 8.66 inch.
The mobo is DFI K6BV3+/66 (www.dfi.com > Archived Products) with a Super Socket 7 K6-2 500mhz.
My power supply died, and the price difference between buying a Baby AT power supply (which also is hard to find around here) and buying a new AT case (which already comes with a new power supply) is minimal. Add the facts that i have 6 expansion cards, and that this case crap only has space for 1 HD. Inside the case there's too little space for air flow.
To put it simple, i wanna know if this mobo would fit into a standard AT case, which would address all my issues at once.
I've read in this site that case form factor and mobo form factor do have to match, but i've been told by some people that the change would be possible. If you wanna help me, you can look at a picture of my mobo at the DFI site listed above.
I appreciate your help, thanks
When you look at a new case.
Check the spec’s for it and see if it is AT / Baby AT compatible.
The difference is nothing more than the Mounting holes
Yes you can mount a baby AT in a mid or desktop case IF it is drilled for the Baby AT mounting
sharifat
05-24-2002, 11:37 AM
yes normally it must be possible because you want to use a bigger case and the power supply for all mentioned form factor are the same.
bye
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Navid Sharifat
Alejandro
05-24-2002, 01:06 PM
So, i'll have to find an AT case that also has the mounting holes for a Baby AT mobo like mine, right? Or, a second solution could be to mark the positions of the mobo holes in the plate of a standard AT case and then use a drill (There should be at least one expansion card installed to ensure that the position is allright).
Anyway i don't understand why my mobo has power connectors for both AT and ATX power supplies, but it states to be Baby AT form factor. What's the point of the ATX connector being there if the mobo can't fit into an ATX case?
Thank you very much to both of you
The AT and ATX power supply connectors has Nothing to do with fitting into the case.
it is the power supply standard connectors
The Standard AT mother board connector is a two part connector.
each has 5volt and 12 volt leads
The ATX is a 20 pin connector with 5, 3.3 and 12 volt leads..
Having both AT and ATX connectors on your mother board gives you the option of using either P/S
Drilling Holes in a new case to mount a M/B is a bad idea.
Just look for one that the M/B will in.
It only takes a few slivers of metal from a drill to damage a system.
Alejandro
05-24-2002, 02:11 PM
So you're saying that there exists such thing as a Baby ATX? Or the ATX connector on the motherboard is for troubleshooting only with an out-of-the-case ATX power supply? I hope i've made myself clear.
I'll take your advice about not drilling the case, i just hope i can find one that matches. With all the problems we currently have in our country (Argentina), all the computer related parts are becoming more and more expensive and the older ones like this are also hard to find.
Thanks for your help
The dual power connectors just make it easier for you to install a new power supply.
That Board will work either AT or ATX power supplies . ( Should have a Jumper on the Mother board for AT/ATX)
Finding an AT power supply is hard to find even today in some areas of the US.
The Primary difference in the AT / ATX case is the back panel where the keyboard plug is
and other connectors.
This is a view of the ATX back panel http://www.aopen.com/tech/techinside/back-panel.htm
Compare it to your AT back panel and you can see the differences ..
You may also find that your new case has inter chargeable panel inserts that will fit both AT and ATX .. ( ATX has a number of different arrangements so it may include more that 1)
Alejandro
05-27-2002, 09:53 AM
I bought a standard AT case on Saturday and been able to transfer the motherboard to it. Like you said, it just was necessary for the case to have the right holes, and this has them. I've then had some nasty trouble with the BIOS (needed to flash it, thankfully Award BootBlock saved my chip) so i've spent about 12 hours till i had the machine up and running, but that has nothing to do with the case. I've been able to add my second HD and my system is now much more easier to handle inside. Thanks for all your help!
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