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livnhumanwrinkle
05-24-2002, 01:12 AM
Does anyone have any idea what is going on in the rambus/rdram arena? I'm building a system for video editing, gaming, and 3d graphics. My research shows that the Rambus/Rdram is the fastest out there, but it's future seems a little shakey. Even some of the new Intel P4 chips are going DDR. Does anyone have a good feel on where the ram is going, and if Rdram is being phased out, will DDR give high end computing power for my needs when hooked up with a fast CPU? And to follow up... are there many good motherboards that are supporting the P4 chips with Rambus?
Thanks for listening.

damfino
05-24-2002, 07:06 AM
IMHO, Rambus is dead , DRR is rolling! http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/eek.gif

sharifat
05-24-2002, 11:44 AM
I also suggest DDR, in theory it has double speed vs. SDram ( 2100 MB/sec for PC2100 DDR). and now the price isn't much higher than SDram, also the performance of a PC always relates to many devices in PC and will not increase by just a faster piece of hardware in PC, Rambus isn't popular at all.

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iisbob
05-24-2002, 10:36 PM
...in theory it has double speed vs. SDram...

it's not theory, it's fact. DDR sends data on the rise and fall of the memory signal, that's why it's called Double Data rate SDRAM.

Rambus isn't quite as dead as eveyone would have you believe, Intel has slowly started to release it's propietary hold on it's manufactureer and is letting other vendors experimaent with it-so it may still come out on top-howwever, the makers of DDR aren't standing still either and are expecting to release a " Quad " DDR standard soon-and have already laid out their plans for a " Sexta " speed or higher bandwidth memory standard within the next year.

With the release of AMD"s Opteron CPU, which is going to move the memory controller from the motherboard onto the CPU die ( with a new chipset of course )-you'll start seeing memory lag as less and less of an issue-eventually i forsee a CPU with an L1&2 cache of a Gigabyte or more. So with static RAM there will be no need of Dynamic memory anymore, and maybe if it gets the tech cheap enough it might even do away with the old mechanical hard drive storage and go to total static RAM storage.

Talk about your fast seek times! http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif




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livnhumanwrinkle
05-26-2002, 02:53 AM
damfino, sharifat, and iisbob:

Thank you very much for your advise and expertise.

BigBlue66
05-26-2002, 02:52 PM
OK, I need some enlightenment here. I thought it was said that RDRAM was the only memory that could take advantage of the P4's quadpumped architecture?

All I know is, I'm running a P4 1.7 with 512mb of 800Mhz RDRAM on my main grunt machine at work and lovin' every minute of it. It's extremely fast and coupled with a T1 line, my net cruising is a joy.

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iisbob
05-26-2002, 03:21 PM
Blue go here, QuadDDR (http://www.quadbandmemory.com/Media_Center/PR_QBM_Roadmap.htm)-it'll give you an idea of the new purposed DDR standard.



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ranchdog
05-26-2002, 11:22 PM
Intel shot thier self in the foot with the

cost of RDRAM. http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/eek.gif http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/wink.gif

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rond36
05-27-2002, 08:49 PM
Rambus shot Intel in the foot by making RDRAM proprietary and charging too much for the rights to produce a chipset to use it and RIMMs with RDRAM chips. All of this extra cost is passed on to us through expensive motherboards and RAM.

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Flick
05-27-2002, 11:48 PM
Yes...but it's worth it. Bought 2 Samsung 256MB RAMBUS sticks for $122.05 with shipping back in January, 2002. IMHO the speed and chipset are better. Time will tell.

carl58
05-28-2002, 02:54 PM
in regaurds to the use of static ram on die cash going from a max of 512 k on a pc and 2 megs on the zeon to 1 gig seemes unlikly in the near future. it sure would be nice but its still way to expensev for me .

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livnhumanwrinkle
06-03-2002, 04:00 AM
Thank you all, once again, for the info http://www.PCGuide.com/ubb/smile.gif